La straordinaria perdita di segnale rivela profondità del loathing in Europa da parte dell’amministrazione Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/25/stunning-signal-leak-reveals-depths-of-trump-administrations-loathing-of-europe
di roslinkat
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Oh boy. Really we as Europeans have do break through this more and more toxic relationship very quickly.
Always talking about shaking down other countries for protection. Sure sign of a mafia state.
Their opinion means very very little to me.
Interesting… For the first time in history, the US decided to show its true face to all countries of the world, instead of only some. One could even say they’ve become a fairer country 😛
tbf, & I’ve considered this a lot, it is mutual.
And yet they try and try to pump money and vile into European right.
Hopefully right wing sees American disdain for Europe
Orban should be ashamed he’s friends with this scum so should Le pen and what’s her name Italian pm and any other right wing nut
We should start to officially call them the „Fascist States of America“ or the „Oligarchic States of America”
Disconnect all intelligence cooperation. We cannot trust the US.
That was obvious, this Signal leak just opened everyone’s eyes for good…hopefully.
Another day goes by, another wake up call for Europe.
Since Trump took the power, the US stopped being our ally and our friend. We need boots on the ground in Greenland ASAP, we also need to kick them out from Europe unless we open some European bases in the US.
F35 buyers, there is still time to try to cancel that trojan horse.
On the bright side, these loser will have lot to loath as Europe and the rest of world stops buying their overpriced junk.
This case shows three things:
1. They hate Europe.
2. They think about geopolitics like a corporation. If we do this, and it’s good for you, then you should pay.
3. They are incompetent regarding security.
Another birthday gift for Putin.
Stop using the US$ as reserve currency… it’s the only thing they understand.
Very important to realise that they actively want to destroy relations with Allies. The regime wants to provoke us, to do their job, and that of the Russians, by making relations worse.
We should take all appropriate measures to ensure our security (including nukes) but not completely cut of relations with the Americans still using a braincell and possessing a spine
With this kind of allies we don‘t need enemies anymore
The whole Trump administration‘s actions and communications seem to be taken right from r/shitamericansay
The US airstrike in Houthi had NOTHING to do with Europe and JD is a moron. The airstrike was just a show of force to Iran and apparently Iran didn’t buy it. It looked weak and was typical Trump the Bone Spur Style.
Let’s do something they didn’t ask for, then tell the world we did it for them and then ask them to pay for it… no… better… let’s threaten them to take the bombs back if they don’t pay us… yes, that’s good. let’s go with that.
If European leaders were thinking that they could somehow charm this lot, then they had better think again.
Just another reason for us to take matters into our own hands.
We have to arm ourselves with European weapons *and* implement a European chain of command, ramp up development of European software solutions and kiss Microsoft, Oracle, IBM, and Amazon etc. goodbye – and then, for good measure, boycut the living f*ck out of American products in general.
I’m truly sorry it has to be this way. But the US is not our friend anymore.
If messaging like this about the US was found on your phone at the US border, you’d be denied entry…
If anyone had doubts if the rhetoric towards Europe was just for the cameras, this confirms it wasn’t. They really hate what we stand for.
Yes this is bad. But: they are using Signal?!
Have they thanked Signal for their military service yet?
“I think we are making a mistake,” wrote Vance, adding that while only 3% of US trade goes through the Suez canal, 40% of European trade does. “
Do people study Cold War history anymore?
Suez 1956 – Britain and France use force to secure the suez canal zone. Then the US (with the Russians) intervene to say in effect “get back in your box”. Britain and France are humiliated on the world stage as the superpowers decide to back an Egyptian nationalist dictator instead.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis)
Obviously filed under Evil European Imperialism and forgotten by everyone
EDIT : I’m not saying the Suez intervention wasn’t a stupid idea, I am highlighting American ignorance and hypocrisy
As American historian [John Lewis Gaddis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lewis_Gaddis) wrote ” *”When the British-French-Israeli invasion forced them to choose, Eisenhower and Dulles came down, with instant decisiveness, on the side of the Egyptians. They preferred alignment with Arab nationalism, even if it meant alienating pro-Israeli constituencies on the eve of a presidential election in the United States, even if it meant throwing the NATO alliance into its most divisive crisis yet, even if it meant risking whatever was left of the Anglo-American ‘special relationship’, even if it meant voting with the Soviet Union in the United Nations Security Council at a time when the Russians, themselves, were invading Hungary and crushing—far more brutally than anything that happened in Egypt—a rebellion against their own authority there. The fact that the Eisenhower administration itself applied crushing economic pressure to the British and French to disengage from Suez, and that it subsequently forced an Israeli pull-back from the Sinai as well—all of this, one might thought, would won the United States the lasting gratitude of Nasser, the Egyptians and the Arab world. Instead, the Americans lost influence in the Middle East as a result of Suez, while the Russians gained it”*
Well, we hate those cunts too.
Americans will regret this period for decades to come.
That’s no reveal, everybody knew it. The stunning leak reveals something entirely different: they are fucking amateurs who think they are the champions league. They are immensely arrogant and utterly incompetent at the same time.
A country can not survive its leadership being overconfident and incompetent at the same time, with its electorate not seeing a problem at all in this. This is a recipe for disaster.
As much as I hate JD, Trump, and the whole corrupt criminal gang (American government), they do have a good point. Europe is weak and a very easy target for bullies. We are just whining and needing help from everyone else. We can say nice words and act “noble”. But I don’t see any action. We ARE weak. Militarily, politically, economically. And Americans CAN dictate the terms. Decades of insufficient investment, insane bureaucracy, and inability to compete in innovation shows. Additionally, Putin needs only one black sheep in the herd (e.g., Fico or Orban) with the power of veto, and the whole EU is paralysed. It IS pathetic, in my opinion.