La postura di Vance in Groenlandia non era solo moralmente sbagliata. È stato strategicamente disastroso | Timothy Snyder

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/31/trump-greenland-us-morally-wrong-strategy-disastrous

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    1. ThinNeighborhood2276 on

      Can you elaborate on how Vance’s actions were strategically disastrous?

    2. Upstairs_Drive_5602 on

      JD Vance’s Greenland visit was a failed PR stunt, ignoring Danish-US cooperation. He claimed Denmark neglects Arctic security, despite Denmark losing more soldiers per capita in the US-led War on Terror. His rhetoric undermines NATO, aids Russia, and alienates allies without strategic gain.

    3. ClubSundown on

      If a politician from anywhere in the world made speeches on how they were planning to annex any US territory or state, and then visited the US, they would be probably be arrested by US authorities. Why is Vance immune from this when he visits Greenland?

    4. CoastNo6242 on

      The longer this shit show goes on the less worried I am to be honest 

      The incompetence so far has been astounding. Everything is going wrong for them. They’ve been made to look like complete idiots by Putin and now Greenland, a tiny country is giving them shit (as it should do) and making them look as stupid as they are 

      Their whole thing is they’re meant to be tough but they just seem like they’re incompetent fully aware and in over their heads

      They just can’t do diplomacy if it means having to ingratiate someone to benefit their own ends. They just can’t do it

    5. Striking_Respond9861 on

      He wasn’t chosen for his brains was he. An empty vessel for his gay meth daddy Peter thiel

    6. There is still the possibility that it’s all a smokescreen for what the Trump regime is doing at home to ensure they will stay in power indefinitely.

    7. SachinhoDoBrazil on

      Greenland left the European Economic Community in 1985, but it remains linked to the European Union (EU) through specific agreements. Can we consider this move from the US government and Trump not excluding military action, as an act of aggression against EU ?

    8. SmugCapybara on

      “Morally wrong, strategically disastrous” is a pretty good summation of this US administration’s whole foreign policy…

    9. eeehinny on

      Very rational article. And Snyder is leaving Yale to go to Toronto. America’s loss.

    10. BaritBrit on

      Their Greenland talk is just like all the bizarre annexation comments about Canada – strategically disastrous but also all the stranger for being completely needless. 

      Canada was already the closest and most-aligned possible junior ally the US could have, supplying everything they could ever ask for. The American presence on Greenland (military and commercial) *already exists* with the option to expand further whenever they want. There was no need for any of this. 

      It’s entirely possible that Trump just really wants to see American borders expanding in a big way as a physical representation of his legacy, like a modern-day Louisiana Purchase. Or he’s an EU4 player who really likes map painting, one or the other. 

    11. JD looked powerless and pathetic out there. Even Greenland doesn’t want him.

    12. Saturn_winter on

      I love how he’s like “we need bases here to intercept missiles, that’s what we do at installations like this”

      yeah bro, it’s already there… like you have bases there… you’re literally standing in it. You are right now in the US missile intercepting base. Why tf do you need the whole country? YOU’RE ALREADY THERE?????

    13. quixotichance on

      in addition to everything, and it really doesnt deserve a response because its so obviously an attempt to stir discontent and engineer a situation where their billionaire friends can more easily steal Greenlands resources from the Greenlanders

      i’d like to question if the US is in a position to accuse other countries of under investing in their citizens ? In the US, some people do very well, but for many US citizens the system has badly failed them. Whether it’s poverty, or finishing university with massive debts, or lack of strong labour rights, or no way to retire, or if you get sick it could bankrupt you to pay for healthcare. These are real problems for a large number of US citizens

      In the danish system, or most european systems, almost everyone will receive a good education essentially for free, and if you get sick you dont have to worry about how to pay for it.

      In the OECD well being index, the US does well for some specific socio-economic groups, but very mixed across the population, so we’re talking about more than 100m US citizens suffering some form of significant disadvantage in US society. All those people would probably be better off under a system more like that of european countries.

      If the US vice president had something to say about what improvements he plans for this section of US society, then maybe we’d be more interested in his views of how countries should invest more in their people

    14. Trump is a bully, doing what bullies do.

      But along with this, there must be someone in his universe who is whispering in his ear that he could be another McKinley.

      McKinley is not a president who American schoolkids hear much about. But McKinley was among the last of the presidents who engaged in territorial expansion.

      It isn’t a secret that China negotiates resource deals with developing nations, exploiting them in the process. It should be apparent with how Trump has bullied Ukraine that he wants the US to take resources from both Ukraine and Greenland as a sort of quid pro quo for what he perceives as the US having been cheated by the world.

      This is Trump’s narcissistic sociopathic personality defect converted into foreign policy.

      The Europeans need to troll him back. There should be a Danish delegation on the ground in the US, shaking their heads at Signalgate and taking pity on the oppressed people of Ohio and West Virginia for being neglected by the Trump government. Trump might have more time to help his own people if he would stop fumbling the ball with Greenland…

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