Russia: non accetteremo il piano di pace di Trump “mentre Zelensky è al potere”

    https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/kremlin-rejects-trumps-peace-plan-after-oil-sanctions-threat-zjwv6r8wm?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Reddit#Echobox=1743538444

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    1. HighDeltaVee on

      And Ukraine has already confirmed that there will be no elections until there is a peace deal.

      I guess Trump will have to be *very* annoyed at Russia then.

      Or, far more probably, immediately blame Ukraine and cut off all aid.

    2. TurkishLanding on

      Stop Putin, now, by force.

      Anything else is wasting time, money, and lives.

    3. Pacosturgess on

      And guess what, they’ll not accept a peace plan if Zelensky is not in power

    4. AnonVinky on

      Redundant…

      It almost is implicit support for Ukraine… by Putin. Effectively Putin is refusing the ~~Extortion~~ ”’Peace🤮”’ plan together with Zelensky taking a lot of pressure off of Zelensky.

      It is like Putin telling Trump *”Keep your hands of Zelensky! He is mine to take to my new Gulags”*

    5. Fanastik on

      I guess this was the plan from the begining.

      Now russia shit their bed!

    6. NUFC_Delaney on

      Crazy that you can start a war, and try to dictate how to end it.

    7. FriendlyGuy77 on

      Russia can’t be trusted on any peace plan regardless.

    8. Pristine_Read_7476 on

      I get the idea that Putin’s really getting off seeing how far he can shove it down Trump‘s throat.

    9. Make-TFT-Fun-Again on

      Just the thought of having to look zelenskyy in the eye and acknowledge him as the guy who foiled his plans is too much for him. What I wouldn’t give to see the two of them in the same room together.

    10. This is an affront on Ukraine’s sovereignty. It’s not up to the Kremlin, and voting in another leader is impossible. It’s impossible legally, given martial law, and also logistically, given that so many towns are occupied. 

      This is tactic. Ukraine would have to recognize Putin’s wishes for Zelenskiy to step down and acknowledge lost regions that cannot vote.

      Ridiculous.

    11. B1ueRogue on

      The US has made the situation far worse and less safe for Ukraine…at the expense of Ukraine…every time i read an update about this war i feel like ww3 is getting closer and closer …i feel that the UK are rapidly being left behind by eastern block of the new Japan Korea and China free trade deal agreement ..US is just a whole issue on their own …and the EU who for some reason still want to punish the UK over fucking fish !!! Ww3 is literally around the corner and Europe is still squabbling..without a trade block ..or defence treaty alliance..one that isn’t connected to the US ..we are just fish in barrel

    12. Greenempress on

      Ok he’s just dragging this shit on, he doesn’t care to let his men keep dying, and for sure Trump got played .

    13. substandardgaussian on

      He won’t accept any peace plan, period, but he would be overjoyed if the Ukrainian government fell apart right about now, so that’s the angle he’s approaching from on the American Front.

    14. metallicadefender on

      Because!!!!!! Rus. Wants to install another puppet!

    15. kartmanden on

      So they want Zelenskyy gone *and* Luhansk, Donetsk, Odesa, Mykolaiv, Zaporizhzhia and Crimea oblasts.. I wouldn’t give an inch. But Zelenskyy has said he would step down if needed (?)

      Trump in his infinite wisdom probably suggesting Yanukovych 🙄

    16. Intelligent_Oil5819 on

      Of the three main players in this triangle, the only one that negotiates in good faith is Ukraine.

      The USA will continuously move the goalposts, and so will the Russians, and even if by some miracle a deal is done, neither can be trusted to abide by it.

    17. MarkB66478 on

      Pathetic Poostain scared of our hero Zelensky, just the way it should be.

    18. zangief137 on

      Cold war was a scam, America musta been in cahoots with the USSR to be this nice to a KGB officer and not be a part of the fight

    19. Coderado on

      How about Putin step down as a requirement for peace? Why do they think they can dictate who leads other countries?

    20. 12AX7AO29 on

      Zelensky is effective, insightful, reasonable. Cannot have that.

    21. Georgi2024 on

      Russia refusing to solve the problem which it ALONE created.

    22. Hopeful_Move_8021 on

      Said the guy who already has millions of people blood on his hands! 😡🤮

    23. beavis617 on

      Putin and Trump want a Putin loving lackey… Someone to hand the country over to Russia, Ukraine can’t have Nukes, can’t join NATO and can’t be part of the EU. All mineral wealth is taken by Putin and Trump. Of course they want Zelenskyy out.

    24. ravnhjarta on

      That headline just reeks of ‘hey trump cuck, help us take out Zelenskyy and we can get down to business’

    25. SlavaVsu2 on

      So that means Ukraine can deny any peace plan while putin is in power as well?

    26. moon828282 on

      Ah, so that’s the plan. Any day now Trump will say we have to remove Zelensky in order to make peace. Gotcha

    27. Blacktip75 on

      Putin will accepts the peace plan when he’s in power in Russia, USA and Ukraine, one left, please hold!

    28. Whatsthedealioio on

      Good, cause we wont accept peace plans while Putin is breathing.

    29. letsridetheworld on

      Even if Zelensky is out of power they won’t accept no plan until they get all Ukraine lol

    30. ScottyMac75 on

      They have no interest in peace in Ukraine and are not operating in good faith. Their goal is to subjugate Ukraine and brutally steamroll across smaller neighbouring nations for a glorified return to the days of a greater imperialistic Russia with vassal states and a larger sphere of interest.

      Ukraine stands firm against this 19th-century might-is-right ethos. And Europe needs to continue arming and providing intelligence to these defenders of Europe’s democratic values.

      Democracy is something you fight to get, and fight to keep.

    31. NovelRelationship830 on

      Trump/Fox tomorrow: Zelensky has to go. He’s a Dictator standing in the way of peace!

    32. Here_there1980 on

      Putin is an evil pos. He deserves every bad thing that may come his way for all eternity.

    33. Ukraine’s constitution says no. President says no. Opposition says no. End of subject.

    34. MasterofLockers on

      Putin is so triggered by Zelensky, he’s his kryptonite or something

    35. huxtiblejones on

      Putin is such a bitch. He acts as if Zelensky was the aggressor. They just want to install a Russian puppet so they can claim victory. Fuck Russia.

    36. Lezerald on

      So much political dancing around a simple truth: Putin wants to continue the war and since he is the aggressor, the defender will naturally also continue to fight. End of the story. There is no miracle “deal” to be had where Putin withdraws without Ukraine selling it’s sovereignty and future. The faster Europe puts troops in Ukraine, the faster Putin will be open for actual peace, because only when his opportunities have diminished and the outlook is hopeless for Russia, will Putin consider peace. Appeasing dictators doesn’t work!

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