>”Security is a pre-condition for our democracy and prosperous economies. The EU must be bold and proactive in addressing the complex security challenges we face,” stated Henna Virkkunen, the Commission’s executive vice-president for tech sovereignty, security and democracy.
>”We will make the EU more secure by reinforcing our capabilities, leveraging technology, enhancing cybersecurity, and combatting security threats decisively. This Strategy, together with the Preparedness Union [Strategy], the Defence White Paper and the forthcoming Democracy Shield, sets out the vision for a safe, secure and resilient Union.”
This is great to hear and the endeavor is admirable, but regular citizens need end-to-end encryption to navigate our daily lives safely. Data security is important. Removing it or adding backdoors only puts us at risk.
You solve one set of problems and create a new set.
onehandedbackhand on
> The aim is to “identify and assess technological solutions that would enable law enforcement authorities to access encrypted data in a lawful manner, safeguarding cybersecurity and fundamental rights,” said the Commission. The identification of such solutions has been the subject of much controversy when attempted elsewhere.
Yeah, I reckon it hasn’t worked elsewhere and it won’t work in the EU either.
_hhhnnnggg_ on
Please no
RoyalCookie1188 on
Democracy lol
Mezzoski on
They simply won’t let it go. Chinese in US telecom networks did not make them learn anything.
SecureConnection on
Calls end to encryption from EPP are predictable like Whac-A-Mole game. I’m shamed this time the office leader is Finnish.
PhilosophyforOne on
What the fuck. no.
ShitlordMC on
Go fuck yourselves 🤣
Past-Present223 on
Can we just finally take this idea of encryption backdoors out behind the shed?
It’s a great idea if you want to build a police state, but maybe we shouldn’t build-in these helpful tools?
And please provide mathematical (that’s what encryption is) proof that our adversaries won’t be able to abuse those backdoors too.
Weekly_Astronaut5099 on
That’s total bullshit. E2E encryption is the secure way. If some incompetent bloke in the government can read my communication. How am I protected against someone with money, but not good intentions?
Szurkus on
Germans will agree to this?
Endymionduni on
EU again showing they don’t give a fuck about the rights of regular citizens
Foooff on
The right to a private conversation without any third parties listening is a fundamental right imo.
Sure, there are things to put to the scale but bad actors will not be cought like this.
The worst case scenario that awaits us on this slippery slope is outlawing open source tools/algorithms.
OnIySmellz on
The irony is that the so-called *’defenders’* of European *’democracy’* employ tools that are themselves characteristic of fascist and other authoritarian ideologies such as censorship, control of information, surveillance and curtailment of privacy, concentration of power and exclusion, etc.
JAGERW0LF on
More EU! more EU! The answer to everything is always more EU!
Today, 20 February, in a public consultation at the European Commission, the EDRi network calls on EU lawmakers to end all attempts to normalise dangerous surveillance practices that rip people off their safety and privacy online.
Edit: typo
Quentin_Taranteemo on
They’re *still* trying to sneak in Chat Control 2.0 I see
Nebulya97 on
That’s not okay.
MisterXnumberidk on
This shit again?
More security is good, breaching citizens’ privacy is not
SOD OFF.
Shoddy_Squash_1201 on
They want control over regular citizens, they already have plenty of data on criminals that they can’t/won’t utilize.
Xibalba_Ogme on
While I recognize the need for a joint force aimed at tackling trans-state issues attacking the inside of the Union (such as organized disinformation for example), I oppose two things :
1/ naming it “FBI” : we’re not the US and should never aim to be. If we’re to stand strong in the 21st century and beyond, we should first be able to mark our differences in naming. Should we not be able to do that first, simple state, we’ll be sending a very wrong signal
2/ security should never be at the cost of what we stand for. Citizens’protection and right to privacy should be at the core of our actions. The system made should be imperfect to ensure that citizens are perfectly protected
ProtoplanetaryNebula on
Regarding the second point (EU FBI). It’s very clear at the moment that Europe needs much deeper integration in order to work a single unified entity in more areas to counter the absolute insanity of Trump.
ThEtZeTzEfLy on
i like tge EU in general, but fuck this!
private comms is a basic right, if this is your last tool to fight crime/terrorism, we have bigger isues.
DreSmart on
Chat Control the 3rd try
Party-Cake5173 on
I’d like to see how exactly one bans end-to-end encryption.
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>”Security is a pre-condition for our democracy and prosperous economies. The EU must be bold and proactive in addressing the complex security challenges we face,” stated Henna Virkkunen, the Commission’s executive vice-president for tech sovereignty, security and democracy.
>”We will make the EU more secure by reinforcing our capabilities, leveraging technology, enhancing cybersecurity, and combatting security threats decisively. This Strategy, together with the Preparedness Union [Strategy], the Defence White Paper and the forthcoming Democracy Shield, sets out the vision for a safe, secure and resilient Union.”
This is great to hear and the endeavor is admirable, but regular citizens need end-to-end encryption to navigate our daily lives safely. Data security is important. Removing it or adding backdoors only puts us at risk.
You solve one set of problems and create a new set.
> The aim is to “identify and assess technological solutions that would enable law enforcement authorities to access encrypted data in a lawful manner, safeguarding cybersecurity and fundamental rights,” said the Commission. The identification of such solutions has been the subject of much controversy when attempted elsewhere.
Yeah, I reckon it hasn’t worked elsewhere and it won’t work in the EU either.
Please no
Democracy lol
They simply won’t let it go. Chinese in US telecom networks did not make them learn anything.
Calls end to encryption from EPP are predictable like Whac-A-Mole game. I’m shamed this time the office leader is Finnish.
What the fuck. no.
Go fuck yourselves 🤣
Can we just finally take this idea of encryption backdoors out behind the shed?
It’s a great idea if you want to build a police state, but maybe we shouldn’t build-in these helpful tools?
And please provide mathematical (that’s what encryption is) proof that our adversaries won’t be able to abuse those backdoors too.
That’s total bullshit. E2E encryption is the secure way. If some incompetent bloke in the government can read my communication. How am I protected against someone with money, but not good intentions?
Germans will agree to this?
EU again showing they don’t give a fuck about the rights of regular citizens
The right to a private conversation without any third parties listening is a fundamental right imo.
Sure, there are things to put to the scale but bad actors will not be cought like this.
The worst case scenario that awaits us on this slippery slope is outlawing open source tools/algorithms.
The irony is that the so-called *’defenders’* of European *’democracy’* employ tools that are themselves characteristic of fascist and other authoritarian ideologies such as censorship, control of information, surveillance and curtailment of privacy, concentration of power and exclusion, etc.
More EU! more EU! The answer to everything is always more EU!
The zombie returns, from 2024
[edri.org](https://edri.org/our-work/mass-surveillance-and-encryption-backdoors-have-no-future-in-europe/):
Today, 20 February, in a public consultation at the European Commission, the EDRi network calls on EU lawmakers to end all attempts to normalise dangerous surveillance practices that rip people off their safety and privacy online.
Edit: typo
They’re *still* trying to sneak in Chat Control 2.0 I see
That’s not okay.
This shit again?
More security is good, breaching citizens’ privacy is not
SOD OFF.
They want control over regular citizens, they already have plenty of data on criminals that they can’t/won’t utilize.
While I recognize the need for a joint force aimed at tackling trans-state issues attacking the inside of the Union (such as organized disinformation for example), I oppose two things :
1/ naming it “FBI” : we’re not the US and should never aim to be. If we’re to stand strong in the 21st century and beyond, we should first be able to mark our differences in naming. Should we not be able to do that first, simple state, we’ll be sending a very wrong signal
2/ security should never be at the cost of what we stand for. Citizens’protection and right to privacy should be at the core of our actions. The system made should be imperfect to ensure that citizens are perfectly protected
Regarding the second point (EU FBI). It’s very clear at the moment that Europe needs much deeper integration in order to work a single unified entity in more areas to counter the absolute insanity of Trump.
i like tge EU in general, but fuck this!
private comms is a basic right, if this is your last tool to fight crime/terrorism, we have bigger isues.
Chat Control the 3rd try
I’d like to see how exactly one bans end-to-end encryption.