EU must help china and use this opportunity to resolve Ukraine and Russia problem. And stop bullying Trump.
If we let china and Canada fight for themselves, trump is gonna play divide and conquer. They will not come out aide when trump will inevitably target us next.
Fluffy-Republic8610 on
I think we can get a lot done with China together to keep trump contained. But certainly let’s not get in the way of their head to head clash.
PlanktonOk4560 on
Well if they stop the war in Ukraine, clearly the Russians could care less about whatever the US says.
cherryfree2 on
Yes please. China is way more reliable than the US. And send some of those BYD’s while you are at it, because Tesla is collapsing here.
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FirstAtEridu on
Russia has been waiting on their porch with ukrainian flowers for 4 years now.
Wakez11 on
Let them destroy eachother.
The_Duke28 on
I mean, this is another great chance for Europe. Make a deal with China, but only if they intervene in the Ukraine war and tell Putin to step back. I’m all in on something like that (not unconditionally obviously). And it’s also a great chance for China to portrait themselfs as a beacon of stability and reason. Something that’s very attractive in these stupid times.
dankestmaymayonearth on
Ah yes the moral paragon of China lmfao
Professional-You2968 on
Make no mistake here, despite their fantasies of world dominance, the US is coming out humbled from this.
In just a couple of weeks the whole world was ready to fuck them hard and trump had to backpedal.
But this is not without repercussions, Canadians are pissed off and boycotting, EU is starting to move in the right direction.
This has the potential to accelerate the decoupling of trades from dollar.
who_dis62 on
Who’s going to jump first and help the CCP?
Generic_Person_3833 on
China has made a very good job in not having friends in the last 10 years.
Asean states? Antagonized with stupid border conflicts and historical animosity China was never able to face or reconcile.
Europe? Constant annoyance due to the trade policies that made the US snap.
Russia? Becomes more and more under the Chinese influence, while China extracts maximum gains out of Russian energy without ever paying or giving the same that Europe did in the past.
India? Clubbing to death in the Himalaya becomes a regular occurrence and even more territorial bullshit.
“The global south”? Chinese colonialism hasn’t made many friends there, just dependencies.
China has no allies, no friends. It will not find anyone helping them with Trump. Because in this and the last Trump-China trade war, everyone know the key thing: China manipulates it’s currency. It pushes state sponsored industries into cheap exports. It closes its own market off. In all, it’s just a bad trade partner and an imperial aspirating regime on top.
RedHatWombat on
There are certainly things EU can work with China, such as truly open-source tech standards like RISC-V, Linux, etc. Or pressure Russia to end the bloody invasion of Ukraine. Etc.
But EU must also look after ourselves and protect our domestic industrial base.
Trajan_Voyevoda on
I’d like to note Spain’s PM Pedro Sánchez is on his way to China right now, a move that has angered Trump’s administration. Given how things played out recently, it is clear to me Europe must get their shit together and play both sides if it is to survive a new multipolar paradigm reigned by totalitarianism.
Hot_Perspective1 on
My enemies enemy is my friend. We freeloaders and peasants would make a fine duo. The US wants to isolate themselves, lets help them do it as our final friendly act.
yojifer680 on
In 2020 China unleashed a WMD that killed 15m people and thought they could get away scot-free by lying about it. Europe should use this as an opportunity to demand reparations from them, otherwise we cut them off too.
thebomby on
China is not going to find it easy to find allies after their belligerence in recent years. Their South China Sea actions against the Philipines, their aggressive military exercises around Taiwan and cruising around Australia’s coast hasn’t helped them.
VeraxLee on
Yes, we should unite together. Wishing trump become rational 90 days later is naive, and at that point no one will dare to challenge trump.
passiondriving on
I guess this is why he paused all other tariffs for 90 days. If everybody is affected it’s a no brainer to form alliances like EU/china. Now China is isolated in that regard and the EU is willing to negotiate with the US. Now forming a EU/China alliance would surely impact those negotiations negatively.
FaleBure on
China and EU have begun negotiations on electric vehicle price commitments, discussing investment cooperation in the automotive industry again! Both sides have expressed support for restarting the China-EU trade that suffered from the tariffs the EU put on them I November, reversal is a real possibility.
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EU must help china and use this opportunity to resolve Ukraine and Russia problem. And stop bullying Trump.
If we let china and Canada fight for themselves, trump is gonna play divide and conquer. They will not come out aide when trump will inevitably target us next.
I think we can get a lot done with China together to keep trump contained. But certainly let’s not get in the way of their head to head clash.
Well if they stop the war in Ukraine, clearly the Russians could care less about whatever the US says.
Yes please. China is way more reliable than the US. And send some of those BYD’s while you are at it, because Tesla is collapsing here.
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Russia has been waiting on their porch with ukrainian flowers for 4 years now.
Let them destroy eachother.
I mean, this is another great chance for Europe. Make a deal with China, but only if they intervene in the Ukraine war and tell Putin to step back. I’m all in on something like that (not unconditionally obviously). And it’s also a great chance for China to portrait themselfs as a beacon of stability and reason. Something that’s very attractive in these stupid times.
Ah yes the moral paragon of China lmfao
Make no mistake here, despite their fantasies of world dominance, the US is coming out humbled from this.
In just a couple of weeks the whole world was ready to fuck them hard and trump had to backpedal.
But this is not without repercussions, Canadians are pissed off and boycotting, EU is starting to move in the right direction.
This has the potential to accelerate the decoupling of trades from dollar.
Who’s going to jump first and help the CCP?
China has made a very good job in not having friends in the last 10 years.
Asean states? Antagonized with stupid border conflicts and historical animosity China was never able to face or reconcile.
Europe? Constant annoyance due to the trade policies that made the US snap.
Russia? Becomes more and more under the Chinese influence, while China extracts maximum gains out of Russian energy without ever paying or giving the same that Europe did in the past.
India? Clubbing to death in the Himalaya becomes a regular occurrence and even more territorial bullshit.
“The global south”? Chinese colonialism hasn’t made many friends there, just dependencies.
China has no allies, no friends. It will not find anyone helping them with Trump. Because in this and the last Trump-China trade war, everyone know the key thing: China manipulates it’s currency. It pushes state sponsored industries into cheap exports. It closes its own market off. In all, it’s just a bad trade partner and an imperial aspirating regime on top.
There are certainly things EU can work with China, such as truly open-source tech standards like RISC-V, Linux, etc. Or pressure Russia to end the bloody invasion of Ukraine. Etc.
But EU must also look after ourselves and protect our domestic industrial base.
I’d like to note Spain’s PM Pedro Sánchez is on his way to China right now, a move that has angered Trump’s administration. Given how things played out recently, it is clear to me Europe must get their shit together and play both sides if it is to survive a new multipolar paradigm reigned by totalitarianism.
My enemies enemy is my friend. We freeloaders and peasants would make a fine duo. The US wants to isolate themselves, lets help them do it as our final friendly act.
In 2020 China unleashed a WMD that killed 15m people and thought they could get away scot-free by lying about it. Europe should use this as an opportunity to demand reparations from them, otherwise we cut them off too.
China is not going to find it easy to find allies after their belligerence in recent years. Their South China Sea actions against the Philipines, their aggressive military exercises around Taiwan and cruising around Australia’s coast hasn’t helped them.
Yes, we should unite together. Wishing trump become rational 90 days later is naive, and at that point no one will dare to challenge trump.
I guess this is why he paused all other tariffs for 90 days. If everybody is affected it’s a no brainer to form alliances like EU/china. Now China is isolated in that regard and the EU is willing to negotiate with the US. Now forming a EU/China alliance would surely impact those negotiations negatively.
China and EU have begun negotiations on electric vehicle price commitments, discussing investment cooperation in the automotive industry again! Both sides have expressed support for restarting the China-EU trade that suffered from the tariffs the EU put on them I November, reversal is a real possibility.