Mentre Trump avvicina l’UE e la Cina, la realtà continua a separarli
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/12/as-trump-brings-the-eu-and-china-closer-reality-keeps-pulling-them-apart
di Dystopics_IT
Mentre Trump avvicina l’UE e la Cina, la realtà continua a separarli
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/12/as-trump-brings-the-eu-and-china-closer-reality-keeps-pulling-them-apart
di Dystopics_IT
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China is and always has been a threat to European markets. They can flood the continent with their products made with cheap labour. We knew it and we tariffed their EV. And I’m not even talking about China being a dictatorship, because I know we trade with Arab regimes, but it’s still a bad look.
The recent push for further cooperation seems to come more from a sense of betrayal than from any rational thinking.
This is such a dumb fantasy coping mechanism. They both trade with the US at a deficit so how would trading with each other make that up?
China isn’t a buyer and it also blows away Europe’s facade of caring about democracy.
We’re just gonna ignore India? Lame.
if we all collectively stop talking about reality like is some kind of basic minecraft build
that would help a lot
thanks
People on the topic ask me. “Why don’t you like china?”
Not the people but the CCP that can’t own up to its own bullshit, can’t come to terms with its own history, lies consistently about observable facts, steals technology with impunity, organ harvesting, forced detention camps and the constant need to drive others to correct statements that don’t completely fall in line with their parties ideology.
Yeah the west is not great but at least we can scrutinies our leaders and depending on how jaded you are, the freedom to express our concerns and opinions.
I don’t mind cheap Chinese trash in stores but we should put on a hard limit on how much they can import annually.
By all metrics China and the EU are both 2 of the top 3 economic and geopolitical entities on the planet, with a bunch of first places between the 2, and with how the situation in the US is evolving they might end up as the leading superpowers through a lot of the 21st century.
So, while im not saying that these types of articles listing the roadblocks that arise when faced with possible EU-China trade re-approachment and diplomatic thawing are wrong or shouldnt be made, it feels somewhat one sided and notable that its basicaly the only kind of analysis going around in mainstream publications regarding the situation. Shouldn’t equal if not more emphasis be given in covering the ways things CAN work out between the 2 and the gains, accomodations and mutual benifits that can be achieved? Media and EU politicians, in this historical juncture, talking about China as being a de facto antagonistic entity and threat to Europe and only highlighting the aspects of the relationship where friction is prominent and then building their analysis from there is a self fullfilling prophesy and also a framing that ironicaly also furthers US goals for Europe.
It seems obvious to me that China is here to stay and will play a leading, if not the leading, role this century and will be the most important partner, trade and otherwise, for a lot if not most countries outside the EU. As long as its not economicaly, diplomaticaly and military belligerent towards the EU and to individual EU countries on the scale we are seeing from the US right now, the EU has to shoot for and earnestly attempt peaceful coexistence and mutualy beneficial relations based on accommodations from both sides yes. If the EU sets the narratives of “democracy vs authoritarianism” and “chinese containment” as a centerpiece for its relationship and approach towards China, it too might end up the loser. The US didnt have the cards but the EU might neither, in a game is set with these rules
What is China going to import from the EU that the EU wants to export?
There is already an existing trade deficit with China, is a larger deficit desired?
*In 2024, the EU exported goods worth €213.3 billion to China and imported €517.8 billion, resulting in a trade deficit of €304.5 billion.*
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20250304-1#:~:text=In%202024%2C%20the%20EU%20exported,while%20exports%20grew%20by%2047.0%25.&text=In%202024%2C%20the%20most%20imported,of%20all%20imports%20from%20China.
Europe wants to abandon the U.S. in favor of China? Good luck with that… China is not your friend…
China builds factories to mass supply the world quickly
Britain builds factories to supply the world over 25 years
China is part of the problem and now US joined the show.
EU must lead the free world. That’s for what was created. To keep nationalisms in check and to make sure that a bigger country couldn’t bully other smaller countries.
Europe needs to get creative about it’s economic future. Otherwise it will become the world’s disneyland for older tourists and not much more. There is not much reason why EU has to compete directly with China over manufactured goods – that would make very, very little sense. The EU still has a vast and comparatively wealthy market that it should use to extract economic benefit from trading partners. More importantly, what is Europe’s long run comparative advantage? Is it manufacture? Probably not. Is it innovation? Perhaps – but where is the investment in R&D and education? Is it foreign direct investment? Share of FDI by European companies has been declining for decades. Europeans must figure out what they want to be / need to be good at 25 years from now.
Duh, they’re still a dictatorship and they’re still a threat to EU’s domestic market.