No need to support a US fascist government. Sounds great to ‘move on’ 🙂
Safe_Wave5018 on
The world’s finally waking up – data sovereignty isn’t just a buzzword, it’s digital survival. Europe building its own cloud spine is long overdue.
AeneasXI on
Good. We need independence from the US tech companies! Build up EU alternatives!
anxcaptain on
Some of you have never dealt with the economics of operating a global scale “as a service” or even a multi tenant DC, and it’s fucking showing.
localhoststream on
Its dificult though, everybody is locked in to the microsoft business suite, and uses cloud from aws, azure or google. So much integrated functionality will be a long process to replace. We have to take the first step today, but honestly, it will take at least 10 long years to completely replace everythingÂ
Historical-Many9869 on
Europe runs on US hardware and software. its a big strategic blunder.
QuotableMorceau on
Thanks to EU laws, EU based data centers from the US based cloud providers keep the data in EU.
The snag when migrating to a different cloud provider is always the proprietary SaaS that the US based providers offer, which in many cases is the only reason companies use them. Sure you can always implement something like Firebase if you have the manpower & time, but in the majority of the cases the company’s core business is somewhere else.
That being said, having a lot of options when it comes to datacenters is always nice 🙂
Gesha24 on
I am sure Europe will have no issues finding highly qualified engineers to build own cloud offerings, as long Europe can offer competitive salaries. I have built infrastructure for clouds and wouldn’t mind working in Europe, but going from $300-500K total income (including stock) in the US to like €150K income in Europe hardly makes any financial sense.
xibeno9261 on
All data stored on American cloud providers, even if the servers are hosted in Europe, is available to the US government.
Do you think Amazon or Microsoft or Google is going to defend your privacy against the US government? LOL. Just look at all those tech CEOs who attended the presidential inauguration. Front row seats.
RevenueStill2872 on
I attended the last AWS summit in Paris 2 weeks ago : never seen that much attendance.
The EU cloud providers market shares collapsed badly during the last decade.Â
I’d love to see homegrown companies get a bigger piece of the pie but this article is high on hopium.
Bayart on
Easy to say, hard to do. European providers basically can’t do anything well beyond bare metal and control planes, and even then the flow is often antiquated (order a bunch of servers, get them whenever, fuck SLAs). A lot of the offering from US hyperscalers isn’t essential and can be passed over, but some stuff *isn’t*. Good luck finding a proper European alternative to BigQuery. And by proper I mean equal or better at the same price point.
Hot_Cheesecake_905 on
Remember when China was ridiculed for developing its own cloud infrastructure and restricting access to Google, Facebook, and other American social media platforms? Even the Great Firewall, designed to keep the public from accessing unfiltered Western media, was seen as excessive.
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No need to support a US fascist government. Sounds great to ‘move on’ 🙂
The world’s finally waking up – data sovereignty isn’t just a buzzword, it’s digital survival. Europe building its own cloud spine is long overdue.
Good. We need independence from the US tech companies! Build up EU alternatives!
Some of you have never dealt with the economics of operating a global scale “as a service” or even a multi tenant DC, and it’s fucking showing.
Its dificult though, everybody is locked in to the microsoft business suite, and uses cloud from aws, azure or google. So much integrated functionality will be a long process to replace. We have to take the first step today, but honestly, it will take at least 10 long years to completely replace everythingÂ
Europe runs on US hardware and software. its a big strategic blunder.
Thanks to EU laws, EU based data centers from the US based cloud providers keep the data in EU.
The snag when migrating to a different cloud provider is always the proprietary SaaS that the US based providers offer, which in many cases is the only reason companies use them. Sure you can always implement something like Firebase if you have the manpower & time, but in the majority of the cases the company’s core business is somewhere else.
That being said, having a lot of options when it comes to datacenters is always nice 🙂
I am sure Europe will have no issues finding highly qualified engineers to build own cloud offerings, as long Europe can offer competitive salaries. I have built infrastructure for clouds and wouldn’t mind working in Europe, but going from $300-500K total income (including stock) in the US to like €150K income in Europe hardly makes any financial sense.
All data stored on American cloud providers, even if the servers are hosted in Europe, is available to the US government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
Do you think Amazon or Microsoft or Google is going to defend your privacy against the US government? LOL. Just look at all those tech CEOs who attended the presidential inauguration. Front row seats.
I attended the last AWS summit in Paris 2 weeks ago : never seen that much attendance.
The EU cloud providers market shares collapsed badly during the last decade.Â
I’d love to see homegrown companies get a bigger piece of the pie but this article is high on hopium.
Easy to say, hard to do. European providers basically can’t do anything well beyond bare metal and control planes, and even then the flow is often antiquated (order a bunch of servers, get them whenever, fuck SLAs). A lot of the offering from US hyperscalers isn’t essential and can be passed over, but some stuff *isn’t*. Good luck finding a proper European alternative to BigQuery. And by proper I mean equal or better at the same price point.
Remember when China was ridiculed for developing its own cloud infrastructure and restricting access to Google, Facebook, and other American social media platforms? Even the Great Firewall, designed to keep the public from accessing unfiltered Western media, was seen as excessive.
Maybe it’s not such a bad idea anymore.