Certainly in the hospital near me if you’re admitted on a Friday, you’re there for the weekend. Bare bones staff at the weekend.
hesaidshesdead on
Not a biggie, just don’t get sick at the weekend.
Pause that heart attack til Monday.
Spiritual_Bonus1718 on
No shit
Opening_Employer5184 on
I think the reality is staffing is key to solving waiting lists. The facilities are there to cope with current demands. A lot of departments are only in operation 60 hours a week. If you could tap into the remaining 106 hours then we would be getting places. Unfortunately it’s a complicated ask. I don’t think uptake would be a problem. People on the waiting list would be glad of a 3 am appointment at this stage I would like to imagine? The first problem is obviously staffing. We are criminally understaffed with doctors and hiring talent from overseas isn’t the answer. I think the answer for this lies in our young doctors. To go through all that education only for the state to sub out all the hiring for a middle man to have a cut, thrown into this shitshow all for basic pay less than a newly graduated primary school teacher is insulting. Hence a disproportionate amount head overseas for a few years.
Then there’s secondary problems to making these 24hrs. Other services that crutches these services aren’t open making them less efficient.
Truly, I think it’s the key to this mess but would have more faith in my dog than the government to make this reform
micosoft on
This will be an unpopular opinion but what do people expect? Majority of medicine is not an emergency and with the [increased proportion of women](https://www.imo.ie/news-media/news-press-releases/2022/gender-equality-in-medici/index.xml) in medicine who expect life/work balance and family commitments whether folk like it or not, means the idea of a 24*7 health service is not happening.
Dazzling_Lobster3656 on
Who wants to work weekends
definitely_not_Paddy on
We dont have enough front line staff to manage during normal working hours. We would need to train and hire an additional front line staff crew across the board to support 24hr and weekend services.
There was a trial where occupational therapists were put in weekend cover but lacked support from other departments and supplier and vendors who are needed to provide the OT service. The learning here should be that putting on one additional shift of one dept. does not provide a service.
The government would need to invest in training, increasing the output of many clinical schools and hire.
This should be considered an investment as the money paid to front line workers would generally come back in tax and less cost in treating more serious illness as it would be caught and treated earlier.
significantrisk on
If people want staff to work the weekend providing full service, what do they want us to stop doing during the week?
Acceptable-Pay3471 on
Providing a full weekend service means hiring and addition 30ish % of health service staff unless you want to decrease services Monday to Friday. The current HSE management having been cutting posts so this is another diversion
JunkDrawerPencil on
It’s not just the health service that is underperforming. Kids missed a day of school this year in loads of primary schools for polling for the election – why not have all the teachers and staff in there on a Saturday? City councils are tricky to get on the phone Monday to Friday, get all their staff in there on a Sunday doing admin.
There’s probably heaps of legislation that they could be flying through in Leinster House if they’ve only be sitting 24/7. Same for the courts. Forget about limited Sunday service in public transport, get all the drivers in there.
Expecting people to work full tilt across a 7 day week is a short cut to burnout. Unless the entirely of society is going to be working across a 7 day week, then this is going to make careers in health even more unattractive.
Working in the patient facing side of the health service is already grim at times, and there are very few perks like work from home. Trying to get everyone in there over a 7 day week without a massive increase in headcount isn’t going to be achievable.
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Certainly in the hospital near me if you’re admitted on a Friday, you’re there for the weekend. Bare bones staff at the weekend.
Not a biggie, just don’t get sick at the weekend.
Pause that heart attack til Monday.
No shit
I think the reality is staffing is key to solving waiting lists. The facilities are there to cope with current demands. A lot of departments are only in operation 60 hours a week. If you could tap into the remaining 106 hours then we would be getting places. Unfortunately it’s a complicated ask. I don’t think uptake would be a problem. People on the waiting list would be glad of a 3 am appointment at this stage I would like to imagine? The first problem is obviously staffing. We are criminally understaffed with doctors and hiring talent from overseas isn’t the answer. I think the answer for this lies in our young doctors. To go through all that education only for the state to sub out all the hiring for a middle man to have a cut, thrown into this shitshow all for basic pay less than a newly graduated primary school teacher is insulting. Hence a disproportionate amount head overseas for a few years.
Then there’s secondary problems to making these 24hrs. Other services that crutches these services aren’t open making them less efficient.
Truly, I think it’s the key to this mess but would have more faith in my dog than the government to make this reform
This will be an unpopular opinion but what do people expect? Majority of medicine is not an emergency and with the [increased proportion of women](https://www.imo.ie/news-media/news-press-releases/2022/gender-equality-in-medici/index.xml) in medicine who expect life/work balance and family commitments whether folk like it or not, means the idea of a 24*7 health service is not happening.
Who wants to work weekends
We dont have enough front line staff to manage during normal working hours. We would need to train and hire an additional front line staff crew across the board to support 24hr and weekend services.
There was a trial where occupational therapists were put in weekend cover but lacked support from other departments and supplier and vendors who are needed to provide the OT service. The learning here should be that putting on one additional shift of one dept. does not provide a service.
The government would need to invest in training, increasing the output of many clinical schools and hire.
This should be considered an investment as the money paid to front line workers would generally come back in tax and less cost in treating more serious illness as it would be caught and treated earlier.
If people want staff to work the weekend providing full service, what do they want us to stop doing during the week?
Providing a full weekend service means hiring and addition 30ish % of health service staff unless you want to decrease services Monday to Friday. The current HSE management having been cutting posts so this is another diversion
It’s not just the health service that is underperforming. Kids missed a day of school this year in loads of primary schools for polling for the election – why not have all the teachers and staff in there on a Saturday? City councils are tricky to get on the phone Monday to Friday, get all their staff in there on a Sunday doing admin.
There’s probably heaps of legislation that they could be flying through in Leinster House if they’ve only be sitting 24/7. Same for the courts. Forget about limited Sunday service in public transport, get all the drivers in there.
Expecting people to work full tilt across a 7 day week is a short cut to burnout. Unless the entirely of society is going to be working across a 7 day week, then this is going to make careers in health even more unattractive.
Working in the patient facing side of the health service is already grim at times, and there are very few perks like work from home. Trying to get everyone in there over a 7 day week without a massive increase in headcount isn’t going to be achievable.