Il ministero degli Esteri tedesco ha appena dato a Marco Rubio una lezione sui valori democratici di base:
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di Morgentau7
Il ministero degli Esteri tedesco ha appena dato a Marco Rubio una lezione sui valori democratici di base:
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di Morgentau7
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What these idiots dont understand is that the Verfassungsschutz is an independent entity. “germany” did nothing to its opposition.
I hate the USA so much it makes me sick.
Edit: to address all the comments telling me, the Verfassungsschutz is not independent: Yes, i know its part of the ministery of inner affairs. HOWEVER, it is controlled by three different and independent instances: the ministery, the courts and the parliament making it practically independent from subjectification from a single instance and free to make its own judgements and investigations without holding any executive or juridistic power.
In germany its just not possible to have political influence over a single institution, the way the US does.
I find it ironic that the same people so eager to dismantle democracy are the first to complain that ‘it’s not a democracy’, but only when it doesn’t serve their interests. It’s clear they’re trying to destroy the EU by targeting and controlling its members one at a time.
Friendly reminder that multiple AfD politicians are currently under investiagtions for hoarding weapons and preparing an ‘ethnic cleansing’.
This is not about banning opposition. This is about preventing 1933.
Shots fired!
“Tyranny in disguise”. Aren’t they talking about themselves?
Go, Germany 💪❤️
US giving democracy lessons…
Keep antagonising Germany, keep meddling in German affairs, keep up the confrontational and shameless tone and see where it will get you.
The more they do this, the more Germany will throw its weight around in the EU in support of strategic autonomy and “Gaullism”.
It’s an historic achievement of the current American administration to utterly disgust the vast majority of the German political elites and the public so much that they are moving away from one of the main pillars of German foreign policy since WW2 – the “Westbindung” (transatlantic alliance). It’s a truly herculean effort to do in a few months what France couldn’t in 80 years, despite the very close cooperation.
Just like Putin destroyed the last illusions many (unfortunately not all) traditionally Russophile Germans had about Russia, so do Trump and his cronies for the US.
By historic standards Rubio’s comment is extremely aggressive towards the largest European country and any concerns would normally have been expressed in diplomatic language in private. This is how far the US has fallen in just over 100 days.
This is also factually wrong. The Verfassungsschutz ( our “spy agency” according to Rubio) already had powers to surveil der AfD, because it was a “rechtsextremer Verdachtsfall” for years (meaning: the AfD was, because of its public statements already under surveillance, because the suspicion against the rule of law was already there, for years).
+ to that: the AfD youth organisation, the AfD on many state levels and many members were already known to be proven right wing extremist.
Democracy has to defend itself.
Germany is insulted everyday by US but still has its military bases. If they have really some pride, Germans should expel all US soldiers from Germany.
Every accusation that the current American government is doing, is a self admition…
Yes we can stand up to radicals like Rubio and Trump!!
They should have ended with “The USA was here, wasn’t anyone paying attention?.
„Germans just gave…“!?!?!? It’s in the constitution the allies helped us write 80 years ago you complete failure of a human… ffs!
Rubios tweet reads as chat gpt
Because MAGA is an extremist group as well thinly disguised as “conservatives” which they are not
Trump should not be a president, he should be in jail.
Who is taking American politicians serious in 2025 tho? Everything they say is to deceive and divide their own people, to control them.
Germany has learned. US are learning right now.
The point is that the democratic opinion is based on the honest truth. No lies, no blatant alternative facts, no extrem intolerance to minorities respecting law and order defined by the fundamental constitution and human rights as accepted by the majority of the population.
The AfD does not respect the fundamental values of the „constitution“ and puts the free democratic future of the majority at risk.
With the AfD a „majority“ is 25%. The problem is that explicitly 50% is against the AfD.
As a german all I can say: kümmert euch um euren eigenen scheiss ihr diabetiker
Why do all Americans politicians pretend the US doesn’t “surveil the opposition?” That’s all the fucking CIA does and it’s how America has always done business.
Marco Rubio is an Imbecile
imagine, an american minister talking about the establishment *giggle*
that said, these two points … a organisation, beeing extremist and unregulated migration causing problems aren’t exclusive to each other, they can both be true at the same time!
Ok, one problem is that the AfD keeps playing with the Nazis. Weidel said in an interview that there is nothing to celebrate on the D-day. They keep using post-WWII extreme right rhetoric that was popular in very small, hidden nazi circles in the last 80 years. The question is why they do it and how many in the party actually believe that stuff. My guess is that a fraction of the party is highly opportunistic, so even nazi ideas are fine as long as they grant them influence and power, but in the lower ranks is full of real nazis because these were the only people that they could recruit here and there.
But regardless of what Rubio says, every country has to live/deal somehow with extreme right parties, I think Germany has to learn to do it as well, eventually. Years ago, these hardcore conservatives were hidden in the CDU and had to be very disciplined, christian, well-behaved etc. They existed, but they had to keep a certain low profile so they wouldn’t go around babbling about nazi stuff. They would however maybe say that it’s sad that we lost Breslau or Stettin because they were so nice. Or they would show support for a high-ranking official of the Wehrmacht who massacred civilians in Italy or Poland. Only that people don’t remember that anymore after 50-60 years. After all you cannot pretend that because something terrible happened 80 years ago then your population is somehow special and therefore people with far right ideas do not exist because you taught them in school that the Nazis were bad.
When patriotism is labeled as extremism…
What a sad time for a tiny lil insignificant piece of land in the old continent.
/S
Ah yes Germany who was just a few years ago was leading the charge in dictating terms to it’s EU partners about exactly what laws they would be forced to push through their parliaments all of a sudden does not like people meddling in it’s internal affairs…
Let me get the world’s smallest violin to paly for them.
Their “spy agency”?! Which kindergarten does he work for/in?!
As a European, it feels like “finally, some leadership”. Long overdue.