Una richiesta verde per un’Europa democratica, unita e federale

A “green” call. Smh… This is why the world doesn’t take Europe seriously.

Greens can go to hell, they are the reason why Europe is lagging on every front!

Holy cow, this amount of nonsensical propaganda is pretty shocking, even from such joke parties like the greens 😀

“A fiscal union to tackle inequality”
XDDDD

Why go federal when we can see one federation crumbling on the other side of the pond already?

Rather focus on improving the current union we have got, no need to start fucking up something that is better than currently available alternatives.

EU Federation 🇪🇺🔥

Would be a wonderful thing to see. Along with the central agency for discovering all these Russian assets.

I’d love to see a Federal EU

This!

Of course. There are secessionists in your fantabulous group. Who don’t give a shit about the Europe of Nations… unless it’s that of their made-up little country.

So you want something like a federation, you’ll have 3723 little countries.

A great idea, no doubt. I don’t even get into the stupidities of how to handle renewable energy and the demonisation of nuclear power. Because I do remember how they answered about how to replace it. Practically and quickly, not with 100-year plans… Silence. Or excuses.

Only 1 out of 10 were well informed and gave real ideas.

And I don’t even stop with the animal rights activists.

I love animals (except humans) but some of the idiotic things they say, there is no one who can stand them.

I see a very deep ignorance in so many commenters. No wonder why the EU is so goddamn weak: you guys don’t understand even the most fundamental dynamics of the interactions between Europe’s nations. You guys just want to force your own dogmatic, ignorant ideology on to everyone, not even considering WHY most european nations don’t want a federal EU.

You know, there is a reason for that. Europe has a very troubled history, and there are so many conflicts that have never been resolved, just suppressed… Most westerners are completely oblivious and ignorant about these topics.

Europe will NEVER be united until (1) western countries get off from their high horses, face their own hypocrisy, and start treating eastern countries as equal, instead of keeping colonizing and patronizing them, and (2) the aforementioned plethora of ethnic and cultural conflicts are addressed.

Only after these essential steps could we even start dreaming about making a federation, realistically. You can force it before too, but it’s doomed to fail.

We do need to get rid of the commission and install a democratic body instead. Europe will never get legitimate in the mind of its citizens as it is.

Yeah, no thank you.

Ah, yes, the greens, who largely came out of the pacifist movements usually funded by the Soviet Union and strongly advocating for one-sided European disarmament while Russia kept arming themselves.

Fuck those anti-NATO useful idiots.

And before anyone comes with “but acxchtually…”, just listen to the greens themselves:

https://www.greeneuropeanjournal.eu/are-green-parties-still-pacifists/

> Many European Green Parties have their origins in the peace movements of the 1950s through to the 1980s.

> In West Germany, huge protests followed the deployment of short-range nuclear missiles in the country by the US in the early 1980s. These helped propel the Green Party into parliament for the first time. “It was, of course, a pacifist party,” explains Reinhard Olschanski, an advisor to the German Green Party. The West German Greens were anti-NATO as a military alliance with nuclear weapons, and in favour of disarmament. “It was a great point of identity with the Green Party,” he said.

> In the Netherlands, GroenLinks (Green Left) was formed in 1989 by the merger of four left-wing parties, including the Pacifist Socialist Party. In the UK, the peace movement and Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament had a strong influence on the emerging Green Party, with a significant crossover in membership. Green Parties generally advocated unilateral nuclear disarmament, opposition to NATO membership, and a broadly pacifist policy combined with the promotion of democracy and human rights.

> “We weren’t necessarily wrong back then [in the 1980s],” said Erik Apel from the Swedish Green Party. “The main ideas of détente, non-alignment, and international nuclear disarmament are still there. But now we are no longer caught in the build-up between two superpowers threatening nuclear war.” Yet the emergence of a more militant Russia means Sweden faces real and immediate threats in a way it did not in the 1990s. “Both these things have undermined the case for pacifism and non-violent defence,” Apel said.

Ah, the classic “we weren’t wrong but please daddy protect us now!”

I truly believe Europe will not be able to sufficiently keep up with the great powers until they federalize. Then, they will be on par with the Chinese and Americans.