Starmer svela la politica di immigrazione “più stretta” che i numeri promettenti diminuiranno in modo significativo – Aggiornamenti in tempo reale
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce810e3z6dkt
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Starmer svela la politica di immigrazione “più stretta” che i numeri promettenti diminuiranno in modo significativo – Aggiornamenti in tempo reale
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce810e3z6dkt
di Half_A_
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I listened to the whole press conference. It sounds like permits to bring in foreign workers will be tied to investments in skills programmes. This seems entirely sensible and could be very effective if implemented correctly.
It works because it re-emphasises the fact that importing workers should be the temporary fix to a skills shortage, not the permanent state of affairs. It also adds a premium to foreign workers compared to domestic, which levels the playing field and helps prevent undercutting.
Oligarchic overlords living in Knightsbridge, Kensington & Chelsea and Mayfair will not be happy about this, that’s for sure
>Migrants will also need to reside in the UK for 10 years before they can apply for permanent residency – it’s currently five years
Gotta say, as an immigration single issue voter who was planning to vote Reform, I didn’t think they would go this far. This is a huge change because that’s far longer than most other developed countries, which means we instantly become a lot less attractive to emigrate to for millions of people trying to find a new country to live in. That should have a significant impact. Bravo.
We all know this is because of reform. But let’s see if anything actually happens give it a few weeks or months and there will be a headline saying immigration at its highest ever I bet.
the reform polls really kicked their asses into gear huh
good changes though this is how it always should have been
What the fear of losing the next election to Farage has caused the Labour? They decided to hear what the people were asking for. When unfortunately, they needed that push from the local election results, at least they’ve taken it and seems to be moving things in the direction expected by the electorate. Lets see if all the talk will translate to actions
The problem with this strategy is that the kinds of people Starmer is trying to win over don’t care what he does, the reality of the Labour Party doesn’t matter, only their preconceived notions and tropes like “Labour support open borders”, “Labour are marxists”, “Lefty Lawyers” etc.
He won’t win over the right wing press or echo-chambers, and these people have never been driven by policy, just narratives. Is it the right policy anyway? Maybe, but let’s be real here, the reason he’s doing this is to win votes and try to get ahead of the Tories in particular on the immigration debate (with Reform being a more wicked problem for Labour because they are a vibes choice)
It all sounds quite good?
This [graph on the BBC is quite telling](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/800/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2025/5/12/272cd1fd-7d18-4178-8911-ae88eeda8878.png.webp). It shows how EU migration has reduced form 300k a year in 2017 to negative numbers of late, whilst non-eu migration has surged from 900k to almost a million in the same time period.
Those are wild figures and it’s clear something drastic needs to happen. it also coincides with attitudes towards immigration turning more negative as it would clearly have a sizable impact on communities.
I honestly think Labour could go full Reform on their policies, but the facile electorate would still not give a shit as long as their guy Nigel makes further gains.
Too little too late. London has a foreign majority now and it’s not the only city like that. There’s also Birmingham, Bradford, Leicester.
Good, let’s see if changes are actually enforced and if they make any difference.
Still won’t be enough for some.
If Starmer proved he had cut migration down by 90% people would say “fake numbers” or “lies” because they saw one brown guy down the shop. Farage proves he has cut it by 10% and it will be “man of the people”.
I genuinely hate the British public when it comes to politics.
Honestly, I’m currently on the 5 year path. It’s already cost me £30,000 to be here and this announcement looks to double that. It’s becoming harder and harder to justify being here.
Reluctant reform voter here. This was very very effective for me.
Pragmatic and competent plan. Reduce immigration and integration without the silliness that comes with having to vote for a vibes based party? I’m in. I can get behind that.
Okay but how does this affect employers who take on employees for the year after they complete a degree and then have constant turnover? This just means companies will use this even more no?
A step in the right direction, so credit where credit is due.
It’s hard not to view this as Labour just buckling to pressure from Reform, though. Why didn’t they announce this last year?
I expect the system will also be left open for exploitation. It would be better just to set a minimum tax payment per year, above the cost per citizen. I can see companies abusing this otherwise and people using dodgy universities, as we saw with the Boriswave
It was already on the way down so, despite saying some will want to make it about politics, that’s exactly what the timing of this announcement has done.
While a smaller % of the numbers, it’s illegal immigration and undocumented migrants that are front and fore in people’s minds – you know the type that comes from Iran, live in provided housing and plan to bomb embassies….
I appreciate the honesty in this thread from some Reform / intending to vote Reform voters.
Serious question: how much immigration do we need to deal with the aging population/ Brits having less children?
Conservatives prattling about starmer being untrustworthy
Yeah because they really proved themselves in 14 YEARS, including overseeing the Boris wave