In numeri: le nuove regole di immigrazione potrebbero rendere la cittadinanza del Regno Unito più difficile da raggiungere di noi
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/immigration-rules-uk-starmer-us-citizenship-australia-b2749224.html
di tylerthe-theatre
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How do you rescind UK citizenship? Asking for a friend.
There’s a lot of wailing over this, but has anyone actually looked at the migration figures?
They went off the scale at the end of 2019. We’re currently at 900,000 NET migration a year. It’s simply unsustainable.
> Net migration to the UK remains far above its pre-Brexit level, when it stood at around 200,000 to 250,000.
Sounds like Brexit was a roaring success for people that wanted to reduce immigration. I’m sure Farage’s ideas and policies will work now.
Does nothing to stop illegal immigration. That’s the real problem, that is what reform and their supporters are against.
It was already harder and offers fewer benefits. (Source: I naturalised in both Uk and USA)
I’ll wait to see how it affects; I don’t believe the government will do a full ten year ilr across the board. More likely specific carve outs for different sectors and different visas.
However, if they do implement this even for care workers and skilled worker visas. Its actually huge and will drop immigration substantially.
So? The UK, and especially England where most immigrants end up, has a lot less space than the US.
The average Brit can barely get a work Visa in the U.S, unless you tick some very specific boxes. Seems hard to believe that U.S Citizenship would somehow become any easier than the UK.
In some senses US citizenship is extremely easy to attain. There are 50000 “lottery” places every year. I’m not saying it’s “easy” to get a place, but when you get a lottery place there’s no other requirement for you to meet.
Even if illegal migration makes up 10% of the figures THAT’S what the PM should be focusing on – not punishing those who come here and contribute
The UK is a much smaller country with far bigger housing pressures. It should be harder to get into the US.
I am a migrant on a skilled worker visa, planning to apply for indefinite leave to remain in 2028. Now I may have to wait until 2033. I’m a reasonably high earner, pay my taxes, hardly use the NHS, volunteer in my local community and have integrated with British society. This has really pulled the rug out from under my feet for me and my spouse and our future plans
Good. Squeeze it for a while and then amend it again in the future. Nothing is permanent.
So they want to keep skilled workers away but keep letting ilegal in migrants flooding the UK? Amazing /s
Some common sense items to reduce people bring their families over without meeting certain requirements. But changing from 5 to 10 years citizenship is crazy, it’s will also drive skilled workers away from making the UK their home. And it’s total nonsense saying brits will pickup the jobs, they could today and don’t, so why will they tomorrow?
Good, perhaps? It’s not like the US is some impossible land to enter – it’s a country that only exists because of large scale migration
There are plenty of countries where it’s effectively impossible to obtain citizenship – we’re a long, long way away from that
I’m fine with this
Honestly given how insane it’s been under the Tories we really need a complete pause for a few years
IT engineer on Skilled Worker Visa here. I’m on higher tax bracket and pay quite a bit on taxes over the other expenses my company had to pay for the visa. I understand why this needs to be implemented and agree that the current rate of immigration is not sustainable (was surprised that a lot of measures announced were not in place).
My visa comes with many conditions, mainly I can’t do any other work (full or part time), switch jobs, or get any benefits (NHS is not a benefit since we pay surcharge for it when getting visa, also I have good private medical so most people like me use that instead). And from my company, I do feel they put me on the lower end of the band when it comes to promotions or increments despite what feedback I get due to the additional expenses they spend.
I’m not sure how this is going to affect people like me, but I’m not going to stick around 10 years to find out simply because its too much time filled with uncertainty (what if the laws change again in that time).
Honestly I want to help people but even I can see the negative effects migration is having on the country now.
I am old enough to remember things being better at a time and honestly I now feel a number of things but mainly the facts around safety.
My wife has been grabbed on 3 separate occasions by immigrant men and luckily one of those times I was not far behind so got to throw him against a wall.
I understand the benefit it can somewhat have to the economy but my main sticking point is that women are now less safe than ever it seems.
I hear horror story’s of people on nights out being attacked or intimidated, it has to stop and these people instantly removed.
They should stop all imigration except for a reciprocal quota based system from Canada, NZ, Aus, USA and EU
Same number in (roughly) same number out. NET imigration 0
Any asylum should have no path to citizenship and repatriation to your country when the government deems it safe. No legal working during this time, provided sustinance from the government. Free flights to any other country that will take you at any time
To those kicking up a fuss over this; saying that reducing immigration is racist etc; ask yourself the following question;
Do you think the UK would be fine if all 7-8 billion people in the world came to live in the country?
Obviously no sane person would say that that would be okay; you everyone agrees with the same principle that there is a limit to how much immigration we can/should have, where the disagreements lie is who we let in and how many.
I personally think that the population is increasing at a rate we can’t sustain from an infrastructure and public services point of view and if we want to keep these public services we need to drastically reduce the population increase, the quickest and easiest way to do that is by reducing immigration.
The main problem is that genuine racists also hold the same position, just for completely different reasons, it doesn’t make the position racist, it just makes their reason for holding that position the wrong one.
It was actually already harder, just not on the basis of the time you’d have to wait. The US system is actually a cheaper process and laxer on financial requirements than the UK’s already was. It just has a fucking massive backlog so realistically you would be waiting a decade to get approved.