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    1. Wide_Tune_8106 on

      It’s worrying how many of these alphabet ‘clinicians’ there are in the NHS and to what extent they are allowed to act as doctors.

    2. We need to get real and admit that these failed doctors have no place in our healthcare system. They are killing people who don’t know better as to outright refuse treatment from them.

    3. Ok-Building-3295 on

      I don’t see why taxpayers are paying a premium to replace doctors with non-doctors. They aren’t better and they cost more, both in absolute salary terms, and the trail of destruction they leave behind.

    4. ObviouslyTriggered on

      Physician associates should not be diagnosing anything, this isn’t a misdiagnosis they should be tried for murder.

    5. This is ridiculous. You are being told who/ what job level you are having an appointment with so I don’t believe that people seriously can’t tell the difference between a GP and HCA. Why does everything have to be turned into a scandal?

    6. parkway_parkway on

      From another article in case anyone is wondering what happened

      >[She was](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2vp8w420o) seen by the physician associate after she called her GP practice, in Crouch End in north London, complaining of pain in her calf, which had become hard. The PA recommended Ms Chesterton should take paracetamol.

      >But her condition became worse. Mrs Chesterton told the BBC that her daughter had “difficulty walking” and “was breathless and lightheaded”.

      >She said: “In the second appointment, the PA diagnosed her with a calf sprain, long Covid and anxiety. The PA did not examine Emily’s calves, and did not make it clear that she was not a doctor.”

      >Ms Chesterton had a blood clot in her left leg, [which led to her dying of a pulmonary embolism.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-66211103)

      I think the whole thing is ridiculous personally, our local walk in center had diagnosis by nurses and we went there a few times, got misdiagnosed and then realised how stupid it was.

      Diagnosis is the most important moment in a medical investigation and has to be done by a doctor, any attempt to farm it out to improperly qualified people will never work.

      Generally MDO’s (missed diagnostic opportunities where something bad happens and they track back to see if it could have been spotted earlier) are pretty common even with doctors doing the work.

      >After joint review, reviewers agreed that **an MDO was implicated in 89 of the 2057 index consultations**, giving an overall MDO rate of 4.3%

      So about 1 in 20.

    7. GibboMed on

      We shouldn’t have PAs. PEROID. Now they can mark med students OSCEs, what the actual fuck?

      I would never want a PA treating me. PA school is 2 years. As a 1rst med student I shouldn’t diagnose anyone or be responsible for anyones treatment. I still shouldn’t ever get close to that responsibility by the end of 2nd year.

      Yet PAs get to do that shit. What the actual hell? I mean yeah there are some conditions that are easy to get suspicious of if you have basic health literacy.

      The UK will do anything but train more of OUR OWN doctors. Nah instead we just hire PAs and doctors from other countries with inadequate training. The doctor shortage is entirely artificial.

      I have to go through so much BS to get to medschool, including an admissions test that doesn’t assess anything important for medicine, it’s designed to be impossible to complete in time, and some of it literally like an IQ test. The med student places are capped artificially.

      The GMC almost struck off one my friends from ever becoming a doctor because he used self defense in a fucking fight and was asked how he knew the person wasn’t going to hug him. I was told I could get into trouble with the GMC potentially for being suicidal and not telling anyone about it at the time (I’m fine now btw).

      The GMC can go fuck right off, and the government officials who greenlight the use of PAs and all sorts of other noctors.

      EDIT: Just fixed some grammar errors

    8. Healthy_Flounder9772 on

      but I though we have plenty brit doctors in the UK with absolutely no shortage of gps and we shouldn’t invite any immigrant gps?

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