It may be the plan, but I doubt it will happen, as there will be people who have a tv and wish to continue using it. No political party will want to deny older people their fix of daytime tv.
MultiMidden on
This will make it impossible to have any form of licence fee to fund it, it’s either advertising or subscription. As we’ve seen with youtube and adverts, streaming services cracking down on account sharing and piracy people are rather keen on getting stuff for free.
Then there is a danger that the likes of the Daily Mail and the Murdoch empire will fill the void.
I’m maybe more concerned about what it’ll do to BBC Radio and local news reporting, anyone whose local newspaper is owned by Reach will have seen how bad the advertising needs to be to make a profit.
Edit: I don’t know what subscriptions people have but I stop subscribing to Amazon Prime / Netflix / Sky I stop getting the services provided by that subscription, that’s not the case with the BBC you might get letters but you still get the service.
Jamie00003 on
About time, such a waste of bandwidth imo when most people’s TV’s can get content via the internet. Would rather the spectrum be used for 4G/5G connections
Thredded on
I know this makes sense on so many levels but I just hate that this inevitably brings an end to the principle for free-to-air TV. It means that in order to receive any television, you will have to subscribe to some form of internet access – which of course I know we all do anyway, but still. It’s the principle – the fact that it introduces a mandatory middle man (in the form of the internet provider) that somebody has to pay for.
I also have doubts about capacity… when it comes to streaming big live events, if say England are in a World Cup final or the next time we have a coronation or a royal wedding and the whole country tunes in – how soon till it all falls over? The beauty of broadcasting is in the name – currently it doesn’t matter if one person is watching or one billion, there’s enough signal for everyone.
True-Abalone-3380 on
Hopefully they’ll get the broadband coverage sorted by then.
Nationally 3.6% get under 10Mbps, but in some areas it’s over 30% can’t get that service.
Some rural areas you’d expect but acording to that 2024 data Sheffield Central and Milton Keynes North have more than 10% who can’t get 10Mbps.
DAZBCN on
Fantastic idea so in 10 years everyone will have an electric car because you won’t be able to buy anything else even though there is nowhere to charge it on top of that everybody including pensioners will need to have Internet even though there is hardly any Internet in many places. Yet again, another way to make money without any reason.
grrrranm on
Not watched terrestrial TV for years
Why bother when you get to stream what you want whenever you want?
Think this is a good thing and is progress?
Bet people said the same thing about black-and-white to colour TVs back in the day
Hungry_Horace on
He talks about Freely, which I’ve never heard of, so I thought I’d check it out.
It’s a service which seems to combine iPlayer, ITVX, and the C4 and C5 VOD apps. Seems like a good idea, especially if it means only one “account” to access all the free-to-air tv with on demand.
Finally some smart thinking! Went to my TV to download the app. But wait – it’s NOT an app like the entire rest of the TV eco-system, it’s something that is ONLY available through new TVs with Freely built in.
So close to a good plan, just to swerve at the last moment into unwieldy proprietary tech. Sigh.
Edit: just reading more, and it’s not even a replacement for all those apps, you STILL need them all, each with an account, to access the on-demand bit of Freely. FFS.
ZhouXaz on
Yeah noone cares about the BBC it can die and hopefully the soaps finally die with it.
OrangeFlavoredPenis on
What the actual fuck
This sucks shit I for one am happy to pay my TV license and the service it provides and the available channels whenever! Nan
jeremybeadleshand on
Genuine question isn’t streaming worse for the environment? I’ve seen that said before but I’m not sure if the comparison was done Vs there being no transmitters, if that makes sense?
Targetmissed on
as long as I can still record programs I’ll live with it.
bateau_du_gateau on
Great without the cost of the infrastructure they can make a big cut in the licence fee. And it paves the way to going subscription and binning the licence altogether.
guerrios45 on
How much does it cost to have a spot on the TV?
Like how much does it cost to appear when people push 1 on their remote control? Genuine question
downbarton on
Great news! I stopped paying years ago due to their breach of charter
Jay_6125 on
Looking forward to Reform getting in and scrapping the licence fee.
Change is coming.
SmugPolyamorist on
They’ve wanted to kill off FM radio broadcasting and swap to DAB only (not even internet) for decades, and it doesn’t seem much closer now than it did in 2010. I’m incredibly skeptical this will happen within 15 years. The edge cases of old people, remote cottages and technophobes will get in the way.
Lawdie123 on
Does that then mean Broadband is going to be a basic right and an absoulte minimum service has to be provided by the government for pepole who can’t afford it? Not every ISP has opt’d into the scheme where they offer cheap packages for people on UC.
What happens when Virgin media goes offline for the 50th time this month?
Infrared_Herring on
Good, fuck the TV license and the awful misogynistic way it’s enforced.
Iamoggierock on
Cool. Let the infrastructure rot and in the future when Russia fancies it we can try to get an information outlet back up and running with cut internet cables. Sounds about right
adezlanderpalm69 on
Why keep old tech. When smart tv are so cheap anyway.
JoJoeyJoJo on
Makes sense to free up the spectrum.
Around the time of ‘going HD’ there was a plan to make 30 TV channels HD, before they realised giving that spectrum to mobile internet would lead to many more times the economic growth than showing ITV3 barely-a-celeb faces in higher resolution. That showed the direction of travel 20 years ago.
SchoolForSedition on
Really? So the whole system can go down at once? Can be taken down at once?
What about the shipping forecast?
Any-Swing-3518 on
By the time this happens you will only be allowed to access four websites though, in order to ensure “Britain’s social cohesion.”
NonagonJimfinity on
That just means the dinosaurs will shamble over and take thier stink with them.
Ugh.
DerpDerpDerp78910 on
If they can get rid of the license fee that would be swell.
Dog-bloke on
You mean like how everyone was going to move to DAB and no longer have FM?
No_Nose2819 on
Just remove the licence fee and turn it all off please. Or have a go like ITV or channel 4 and 5.
Tubbygit-2 on
My mother in law would definitely not cope with this.
She can’t fathom how the on-screen TV guide works
(Insists on the Daily Mail tv magazine so she can find her repeats of Heartbeat and Downton bloody Abbey).
The level of panic that sets in if you tell her she has to navigate iPlayer is as if you’d just asked her to defuse a nuke.
There are a lot of old people out there who cannot and will not adapt
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It may be the plan, but I doubt it will happen, as there will be people who have a tv and wish to continue using it. No political party will want to deny older people their fix of daytime tv.
This will make it impossible to have any form of licence fee to fund it, it’s either advertising or subscription. As we’ve seen with youtube and adverts, streaming services cracking down on account sharing and piracy people are rather keen on getting stuff for free.
Then there is a danger that the likes of the Daily Mail and the Murdoch empire will fill the void.
I’m maybe more concerned about what it’ll do to BBC Radio and local news reporting, anyone whose local newspaper is owned by Reach will have seen how bad the advertising needs to be to make a profit.
Edit: I don’t know what subscriptions people have but I stop subscribing to Amazon Prime / Netflix / Sky I stop getting the services provided by that subscription, that’s not the case with the BBC you might get letters but you still get the service.
About time, such a waste of bandwidth imo when most people’s TV’s can get content via the internet. Would rather the spectrum be used for 4G/5G connections
I know this makes sense on so many levels but I just hate that this inevitably brings an end to the principle for free-to-air TV. It means that in order to receive any television, you will have to subscribe to some form of internet access – which of course I know we all do anyway, but still. It’s the principle – the fact that it introduces a mandatory middle man (in the form of the internet provider) that somebody has to pay for.
I also have doubts about capacity… when it comes to streaming big live events, if say England are in a World Cup final or the next time we have a coronation or a royal wedding and the whole country tunes in – how soon till it all falls over? The beauty of broadcasting is in the name – currently it doesn’t matter if one person is watching or one billion, there’s enough signal for everyone.
Hopefully they’ll get the broadband coverage sorted by then.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/constituency-data-broadband-coverage-and-speeds/
Nationally 3.6% get under 10Mbps, but in some areas it’s over 30% can’t get that service.
Some rural areas you’d expect but acording to that 2024 data Sheffield Central and Milton Keynes North have more than 10% who can’t get 10Mbps.
Fantastic idea so in 10 years everyone will have an electric car because you won’t be able to buy anything else even though there is nowhere to charge it on top of that everybody including pensioners will need to have Internet even though there is hardly any Internet in many places. Yet again, another way to make money without any reason.
Not watched terrestrial TV for years
Why bother when you get to stream what you want whenever you want?
Think this is a good thing and is progress?
Bet people said the same thing about black-and-white to colour TVs back in the day
He talks about Freely, which I’ve never heard of, so I thought I’d check it out.
It’s a service which seems to combine iPlayer, ITVX, and the C4 and C5 VOD apps. Seems like a good idea, especially if it means only one “account” to access all the free-to-air tv with on demand.
Finally some smart thinking! Went to my TV to download the app. But wait – it’s NOT an app like the entire rest of the TV eco-system, it’s something that is ONLY available through new TVs with Freely built in.
So close to a good plan, just to swerve at the last moment into unwieldy proprietary tech. Sigh.
Edit: just reading more, and it’s not even a replacement for all those apps, you STILL need them all, each with an account, to access the on-demand bit of Freely. FFS.
Yeah noone cares about the BBC it can die and hopefully the soaps finally die with it.
What the actual fuck
This sucks shit I for one am happy to pay my TV license and the service it provides and the available channels whenever! Nan
Genuine question isn’t streaming worse for the environment? I’ve seen that said before but I’m not sure if the comparison was done Vs there being no transmitters, if that makes sense?
as long as I can still record programs I’ll live with it.
Great without the cost of the infrastructure they can make a big cut in the licence fee. And it paves the way to going subscription and binning the licence altogether.
How much does it cost to have a spot on the TV?
Like how much does it cost to appear when people push 1 on their remote control? Genuine question
Great news! I stopped paying years ago due to their breach of charter
Looking forward to Reform getting in and scrapping the licence fee.
Change is coming.
They’ve wanted to kill off FM radio broadcasting and swap to DAB only (not even internet) for decades, and it doesn’t seem much closer now than it did in 2010. I’m incredibly skeptical this will happen within 15 years. The edge cases of old people, remote cottages and technophobes will get in the way.
Does that then mean Broadband is going to be a basic right and an absoulte minimum service has to be provided by the government for pepole who can’t afford it? Not every ISP has opt’d into the scheme where they offer cheap packages for people on UC.
What happens when Virgin media goes offline for the 50th time this month?
Good, fuck the TV license and the awful misogynistic way it’s enforced.
Cool. Let the infrastructure rot and in the future when Russia fancies it we can try to get an information outlet back up and running with cut internet cables. Sounds about right
Why keep old tech. When smart tv are so cheap anyway.
Makes sense to free up the spectrum.
Around the time of ‘going HD’ there was a plan to make 30 TV channels HD, before they realised giving that spectrum to mobile internet would lead to many more times the economic growth than showing ITV3 barely-a-celeb faces in higher resolution. That showed the direction of travel 20 years ago.
Really? So the whole system can go down at once? Can be taken down at once?
What about the shipping forecast?
By the time this happens you will only be allowed to access four websites though, in order to ensure “Britain’s social cohesion.”
That just means the dinosaurs will shamble over and take thier stink with them.
Ugh.
If they can get rid of the license fee that would be swell.
You mean like how everyone was going to move to DAB and no longer have FM?
Just remove the licence fee and turn it all off please. Or have a go like ITV or channel 4 and 5.
My mother in law would definitely not cope with this.
She can’t fathom how the on-screen TV guide works
(Insists on the Daily Mail tv magazine so she can find her repeats of Heartbeat and Downton bloody Abbey).
The level of panic that sets in if you tell her she has to navigate iPlayer is as if you’d just asked her to defuse a nuke.
There are a lot of old people out there who cannot and will not adapt