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    Mappa che mostra livelli estremamente pericolosi di contaminazione PFAS in tutta Europa

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    1. SPXQuantAlgo on

      Source https://foreverpollution.eu/map/

      The project shows that there are 20 manufacturing facilities and more than 2,100 sites in Europe that can be considered PFAS hotspots – places where contamination reaches levels considered to be hazardous to the health of exposed people. The problem: It is extremely expensive to get rid of these chemicals once they have found their way into the environment. The cost of remediation will likely reach the tens of billions of euros. In several places, the authorities have already given up and decided to keep the toxic chemicals in the ground, because it’s not possible to clean them up.

      PFAS are used in a lot of different industries, from Teflon to Scotchgard, to make non-stick, non-stain or waterproof products. They don’t degrade in the environment and are very mobile, so they can be detected in water, air, rain, otters and cod, boiled eggs and human beings. PFAS are linked to cancer and infertility, among a dozen other diseases. It has been estimated that PFAS put a burden of between 52 and 84 billion euros on European health systems each year.

      PFAS emissions are not regulated in the EU yet, and only a few Member States have adopted limits. All the PFAS experts we interviewed were adamant that the thresholds set by the EU for implementation in 2026 are much too high to protect human health.

    4. FearlessVisual1 on

      PFAS have been found in glaciers. They are everywhere. This is just a map of where the most tests have been done.

    6. smk666 on

      I see someone diligently watches Veritassium as well.

      Anyway, tl;dw;:
      PFAS are mostly present in water supply all around the world and there’s nothing we can personally do to lower our exposure (definitely no need to toss those non-stick pots and pans).

    7. iNd3xed on

      Always when looking at maps like these, I ponder how much the data is suffering from “sample bias” in the sense that if we go looking, we are going to find PFAS literally everywhere, so this map maybe better shows where efforts have been spent looking for, and documenting PFAS?

      Anyhow, these chemicals suck, and we should work hard on eliminating them from our daily lives, and only using them where they are truly necessary for important roles, e.g. in healthcare. Documenting and tracking the PFAS pollution is the first step, and I guess if we poured in more effort, way more of this map would turn red.

      It sucks that just like for climate change, collective action is required to legislate, and I can feel helpless as an individual wanting to protect my and others’ children from growing up on an continually more polluted planet.

    8. K_R_S on

      Poland be like the smart black guy:

      > no measurement, no visible contamination

    11. smjsmok on

      Someone watched the new Veritasium video.

      But jokes aside, it’s a good thing that they did that. Hopefully this will get into the public consciousness more.

    12. Vermisseaux on

      Would be simpler to paint the whole map (actually the whole planet) red

    13. _hhhnnnggg_ on

      Eh, no. This is just a map of locations that have been tested. Virtually everywhere is contaminated with PFAS to some degree.

      Saying that it is at “dangerous level” is kinda doomposting. We know it is a serious issue, but no need to panic just yet.

    15. Ok-Pumpkin-3390 on

      I remember talking about this YEARS ago and how I was ridiculed, called a conspiracy theorists and how those people “personally knew scientists” who say that PFAS aren’t unhealthy😂 But yeah, keep using those coated pans

    17. themac_87 on

      There are PFAS in almost every single human being on the planet. Which to me is scary. The latest Veritassium video was an eye opener. I live in Madeira Island, I am a bit more shielded from all of the pollution across Europe, still, there are Presumptive Contamination spots here too and hold and behold, there are no major industries here besides an incinerator, a pasta factory and the diesel power plant.

      I wonder what the values were when I lived next to a major industrial park in Lisbon (Santa Iria) and how much did it affect me and my family. And to add to the equation I was raised in northern Portugal, in a zone where the rivers would change color depending on what paint they were dying the textiles with.

      And then I compare it all with Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Northern Italy, Northern France and the UK, it’s scary. The scariest part is that those spots represent known contamination and do not represent hot-spots or the spread of these chemicals through the years, making me believe that the whole pollution is nicely spread through the continent.

      This is just Europe, I imagine the rest of the world…

    20. Miraris67 on

      Oh misinformation !

      The “red dot” are here to show where tests were made, thus “known contamination”, some of them are extrem level of contamination and others are fairly low level.

      Great that you’ve seen Veritasium video, but don’t spread information you don’t even understand with such a title.

    25. Nattekat on

      You can make this entire map red because it’s everywhere. 

      Also obligatory r/peopleliveincities

    26. Late-Let-4221 on

      Okay so we know this stuff is everywhere and we know it has some impact on us and some parts of the world will try to do something about it, but at the same time I think people are in peace with this, because there’s always something worse that’s more immediate than something that might cause issues over decades to your body.

      I see this as simple byproduct of civilization and it will be handle in some way this century, but it’s one of those new pollutants we gotta live with for some time anways. I wouldnt want this to become some new click bait scare term all of a sudden, because it doesnt have to be.

    28. idgaf_aboutyou on

      I think the only remaining clean continent is Antarctica

    29. Johnwayne87 on

      The big question here is are those values around Germany so high because the Germans love their PFAS or are they just measuring more often.

    31. ResidentNo9950 on

      Map of countries that care enough about the health of their citizens to measure this.

    32. Black_Cat_Guardian on

      It spreads so easily by water… You can even tell the flow of the Danube from this map

    33. andrepcg on

      I’ve searched but it seems there’s no PFAS blood kit available for purchase in Europe. Anyone has any suggestions?

    34. Shoend on

      To the people saying the map is useless: the map is INTERACTIVE, you can open the link and check the actual level of PFAS in your drinking water.

    35. hornyoldbusdriver on

      Has someone watched the Veritasium vid “forever chemicals”?

    36. fortuneman7585 on

      Looks like the Danube is bringing them to Central and Eastern Europe.

    37. ilovebeetrootalot on

      All of this for maximising shareholder value! Worst thing is, politicians stick their heads in the sand when confronted with this. They just delay, deny, defend because of “local jobs”, “we’re not sure” and “more research is needed”. Fuck off, you’re getting paid by Dupont, Chemours and other big chemical companies.

    38. yecheesus on

      No way Wales is somehow safe despite being next to a completly red zone

    41. Fluffy-Drop5750 on

      So let’s stop producing and using that stuff. After a nuclear war, would we say nuclear contamination is everywhere, let’s contaminate even more?

    43. qtwhitecat on

      I agree that we need to do more to stop these from leaking into the environment. I do find that term forever chemical and some of the coverage of this to be sensational. In the sense that forever is a strong hyperbole/misnomer. Once discontinued 4 or so years ago PFOA concentrations in humans started to drop. Now it’s half of what it was. So with those time scales I would assume that these chemicals once discontinued or handled properly will last about a generation or two in the environment. You compare that with other pollutants like CO2 or nuclear waste and the term forever really falls into perspective. 

    45. Playful_Copy_6293 on

      The center of europe is just basically completely contaminated

    46. Mr-WideGrin on

      We thought that microplastics are the lead of our generation, but it was PFAS all that time.

    47. mabiturm on

      This map does not mean anything if the ‘known not contaminated’ data is not added. Now you cannot see the difference betwen a a clean area and an area with no data.

    49. here_to_read_shit on

      I live (3 km horizontal width) near PFAS manufacture and the amout of PFAS tested in ditches is sky high. The are permitted to ditch Pfas in the river.
      We are advised not to eat own eggs, fruit and vegables, but the products inn the supermarket aren’t contaminated? And products from the supermarket are also contaminated with agricultural poison.

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