La Gran Bretagna sta davvero tornando verso l’UE?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20x395pvvjo
di Tartan_Samurai
La Gran Bretagna sta davvero tornando verso l’UE?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20x395pvvjo
di Tartan_Samurai
27 commenti
There’s advantages to being closer but still outside, using bespoke agreements on defence, fishing etc, but having the flexibility to sign deals globally.
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Sensible for the UK to be as close as possible, then rejoin within the next 10 years.
Reform is first in the polls right? I don’t think this is happening.
It has been obvious since the referendum that the ultimate destination is that we end up something like Norway, and it would have been a lot better if we had been sensible and agreed this quicker than it is taking. Norway rejected EU membership by 52/48 as well but they weren’t stupid enough to round up 52 to 100 and sought the compromise the result clearly mandated. The U.K. referendum clearly mandated compromise, instead May chose to dehumanise the sensible slight minority. Brexit doesn’t work and we’ll be driving with the handbrake on until we admit that.
We left 5 years ago and everyone acts like the world ended 😂 our projected gdp growth for this year is double the entire EU… I’d say we’re doing alright. All feel free to jump on my opinion thought because it doesn’t fit with mainstream propaganda 👍
Labour put too much stock in polls suggesting the Brexit voter base had evaporated, also half fuelled by the “covid killed off brexiteers” meme. Reform’s growth shows it was really just dormant, now Labour are awakening it again and stuck with this negotiation which they must now realise is going to invigorate Reform. All this reversal stuff should have been a second term government mandate, not a first term one.
It’s obvious we need good relations with the EU but the desperation from some to rejoin is palpable. A lot more water has to flow under the bridge before that will be worth looking at.
Sensible approach from both sides is to trade with less restrictions. But that doesn’t make us a country inching closer to the EU any more than it is inching towards India or the USA.
Economically we have performed better than our main European peers over the last 5 years. A 5 years that has been catastrophically impacted by Covid, Ukraine and Trump
Brexit was the one trick pony of farage . It gave him a platform for his ukip. And the media loved it. His press meetings in a pub. They flocked to see him. Now with the reform company it’s immigration . another one trick pony. The press are loving it. It’s divisive and gets ratings. Now Tory and Tory lite rather than stand up to farage. They copy the hate rhetoric in the fear of losing votes. And it’s feeding farage. If people vote for prime minister farage they deserve him. Good luck with your healthcare, pensions and government services. As they say in Lidl. When it’s gone.its gone.
Why should we? I can see nothing that will improve our lives by being in the EU that we don’t already have while out. My life did not change a single bit when we left and I know it won’t change if we go back, so I personally couldn’t give a fuck.
As much as this is absolutely the right thing to do and I would love to see it happen, I’m not sure this would work with Reform on the march. Sad times.
I hope not. As a brexit voter I’d hate for my country to do well.
I am yet to see a strong case for putting us through rejoining. There are personal benefits to myself but I fail to see the case for the wider country.
There will be a high price to pay for rejoining, and i suspect that might make it unpalletable to alot of the population. Needless to say the right wing press will do all they can to tell us how much of a disaster it would be to re-join.
However after one term of a Reform government the country will be in such bad shape that i suspect we’ll do anything for some stability and normalcy. I suspect the economy will look worse than that of Greece during the peak of their 2009 economic crisis.
I still think the majority of the UK don’t want political alignment with the EU. They would be happy with a trade deal, but want independence on law making etc. It’s what the EEC was meant to be.
I would be more amiable to joining the EEA like Iceland, Switzerland, Norway, etc. But the UK will not adopt Schengen… so is there any point? Unless we have free movement of people what the point at least under the old EC we could travel unhindered
Just the Single Market is more likely, like the Swiss or Norwegians. I’d be happy with that.
The relationship will probably move in that direction (closer relationship akin to Switzerland) but stop short at full membership of the EU. We are probably never going to rejoin, if we did it would not be on our previous terms but on the rules for new members which means adopting the Euro.
Considering the vast majority of people who voted to leave will be dead in 10 years this is more likely than not, worst thing the country ever did
USA being what it is at the moment it’s not only wise it’s necessary. Should never have left. Fucking Farage and Cameron and everyone else involved in Brexit can eat an entire bag of dicks.
To rejoin them would now be a mistake because they would make the UK pay heavily for leaving in the first place.
Whereas before the UK held some clout for being one of the powerhouses within the EU, they are now nothing and to rejoin would cost the UK to much including having to give up the Pound for the Euro.
And I genuinely think it would be good to rejoin, but realistically they have the UK over a barrel if they decided to join again.
You are all missing a big issues. It isn’t just our decision/ choice. The EU would have a say. Push comes to shove they don’t want us back. Things are smoother for them with us not being there.
I hope not, because all of the UKs problems are immeasurably worse with Brexit, I hope the UK is running with open arms back to Europe. As fast as is humanly possible.
If not the UK is not a viable proposition and will never recover.
If this is not the case then the UK needs to end the ridiculous right wing media monopolies that are preventing a functional democracy.
This includes implementing the Levinson recommendations and applying normal publishing law to social media so that Putin can no longer use it as a very cheap and very, very effective weapon against us.
Polls have shown for years that the majority of the public were regretting Brexit. Yet those voters are largely being ignored by the government and 2 main opposition parties, not to mention much of the media.
Anti-immigration people are always bleating on about being ignored, despite that topic dominating politics for decades. With those same 3 parties fighting over those voters.
What have we gained from Brexit, has there been any benefit to it?
Eventually we will rejoin the EU. I can’t imagine it happening for another 10 years, but it will happen.