Chi ha vinto i 12 punti dal televisore del tuo paese?

Lol, no f-ing way

Maybe not use a voting system that can be corrupted by a simple auto-dialler going forward?

Breaking news political thing is political

The Albania-Greece vote swap is pretty remarkable considering how much we vilify each other

This is what happens when there is no negative vote. Something controversial (politically) sweeps the 12s because its supporters all vote for it, while its haters vote for dozens of songs, which means Israel ends with the most votes over the other songs individually.

I love how people are complaining about how political Eurovision is while everyone has been trying to make Eurovision political for the last 2 years because of Israel. You got what you wanted hahaha. Eurovision should be a song contest not a symbol for what political opinion is popular.

You get 20 votes per credit card, which can all go to the same act.

stopped watching after Europapa debacle. Turns out to be just another shitshow

That’s bullshit. Portugal gave the 12 points to Italy.

The irony of excluding Russia but supporting Israel.

Im Very suprised by spain as they were thretened to be fined by EBU for bringing to attention the Genocide in Gaza

I don’t get it, so nobody voted for the winner?

Isn’t it very weird that the country that “won” the public vote is not even in the top 10 of most streamed songs by daily streams? [source](https://x.com/esc_charts/status/1923915220541481400?t=Bv9We59_LACXW4f_4jqsiQ&s=19)

The elephant in the room aside, Serbia and Croatia finally agreeing on something that’s also actually genuinely based is nice to see. Nice to see Armenians being people of culture as well

There is no way Spanish people voted for Israel so much. Something doesn’t seem right

Embarrassing.

It’s not a huge priority for Eurovision to prevent gaming of the voting system, for regular users it is enough to make it require a bit of extra work.

All you need is VPN + credit card and you can vote “locally” anywhere. A million votes requires a mere 1,5 M€ “marketing budget”. GG.

Thank god the expert juries gave enough points to Austria to prevent the Israeli psyop piece winning.

I posted this in another thread but thought I’d post it here too for the people who are trying to understand the vote for Israel.

I don’t think it was “rigging” or an ad campaign like so many people are saying. I know that no ad could make me voluntarily spend my own money to vote for a Eurovision song.

I think it’s more that Yuval (the singer for Israel) had the most passionate fans. I lived in Israel for more than a decade but have lived in Europe for 5+ years and plan to stay here. Israel has always been very intense about Eurovision– I think a win means a lot more to Israel than it does to most countries who just see it as a fun song contest. Israel has always gravitated toward serious ballads that somehow tell the Israeli story– for example one of my favorite entries was when Palestinian singer Mira Awad and Israeli singer Achinoam Nini sang “There must be another way” together in English, Arabic, and Hebrew. (This year the runner up in the contest to choose a Eurovision entry was actually an Israeli Arab.) To Israelis a vote always feels like “the world cares about us, understands us, and supports us,” even though I think to most of the world it’s not that deep. Israel almost never enters humorous songs so it was almost a shock to the Israeli mentality when Netta won a few years back with a fun banger– I think Israel didn’t know what to think!

I’ve watched Eurovision for years on and off but never bothered to vote until last year. Living abroad, voting gave me a chance to show support for the Israeli people, especially because we could see how much hate Eden was getting. The song last year was originally entitled “October Rain” and basically told the story of how bereft we were feeling after the horror of Oct 7. Last year Israel was almost complete iced out by the judges, which made it feel even more meaningful when the audience vote put Eden pretty high in the rankings.

This year I felt less intense about supporting Israel in the voting than I did last year (and actually split my votes between Israel and a bunch of other countries), but I was still reminding friends and family to vote for Yuval and spent my own money to vote for only the second time ever. This singer was a survivor of the Nova massacre who literally had to hide under dead bodies for hours on Oct. 7. She seems like such a sweet, warm soul and her song told the story of this resilience. It is also objectively a really good song sung beautifully. I’ve been listening to it on repeat since it came out (though maybe I’m not a great judge of what would objectively do well in Eurovision bc I also voted for Switzerland and the UK– and in my opinion Estonia should have won, we gave him multiple votes).

I also breathed a huge sigh of relief when Israel didn’t win– honestly nobody needs the drama of Israel hosting Eurovision right now!! I just wanted to support Yuval and see her finish well, like Eden last year.

Another factor is that for obvious reasons a LOT more Israelis moved out of the country to Europe since Oct 7. One secret to doing well in Eurovision seems to be to have something so awful happen in your country that a lot of your people leave and become potential Eurovision votes. :-p Voters in the country where I live gave our 12 points to Ukraine, because we have a ton of Ukrainian refugees here.

Tl;dr I don’t think there is really anything deeper going on here than that Israeli fans were really motivated to get out the vote and show support. Call YOUR friends and family to vote for your favorites next year!