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    1. johnfuckingtravolta on

      Ah sure isnt it grand saying you’re broke when ye continually post surpluses

    2. Illustrious_Read8038 on

      Government: “We can’t cut tax because the shortfall would have to come from elsewhere.”

      Government: *Declares billions in surplus tax each year*

    3. JONFER--- on

      This is paving the way to get rid of the rent cap.

      It will be argued (accurately in my opinion) that because international investors will want to/expect to make returns on their investments they will be reluctant to invest into a country where they cannot adjust the rents upwards to account for the extra costs/inflation.

      The Rent cap Should have been done away with years ago, I suspect if it had been the current problems wouldn’t be as bad as they are now. It has created a two-tier rental market, people who were already in houses and below market value rents will do anything to keep the current system whereas new people who cannot find houses to rent because of lack of supply want things to be rectified.

      In almost every other country in the world were similar measures were engaged they were eventually done away with because of lack of supply from houses not being built.

      The government at the start of the term and won’t be facing an election for a couple of years, if it’s going to happen it’s going to happen now. If there was an election next couple of months time there is not a hope in hell that they would do it because of voter backlash in the short term.

      The academic thinking suggests that at supply goes up prices will fall. But I suspect that won’t happen because new demand seems to be increasing exponentially.

      It would upset some people if I were to point out directly one of the main causes behind this new demand so I will leave it to the readers imaginations.

       

    4. theoldkitbag on

      > The Government will not be able to deliver 60,000 houses annually by 2030 — the private sector and international finance will be needed to bolster the numbers, the housing minister has said.

      This would be assumed. 60k units at, say, 300k a pop (being generous) is 18bn. That the state would need to seek finance for this should not be a shock to anyone. We’ve used PPP for basically every major capital investment in the state.

      > Meeting Government housing targets for 2025 was “always going to be challenging”, according to James Browne.

      Their own fucking targets. So obviously promises made before the election have basically nothing to doing with reality – aka. “we lied our asses off”. This on top of lying about stock already delivered.

      Basically all of FFG’s voting base own a house. The loudest own several. More impactfully, a lot of them vote on the basis of maintaining their personal wealth. We’re expecting FFG to reduce the value of those properties by actually delivering on housing?? Nonsense.

    5. Dry_Membership_361 on

      Unless there is cohesive plans, Ireland will be bloated with middle class versions of Ballymun, indeed you could already argue the car centric urban sprawl around Dublin already is that only this time there definitely won’t be the infrastructure needed. Towns around the east coast are already congested because of lack care for the built environment and cohesion. Not one city or council or party in Ireland seems to take incentives to do things differently. 

    6. Horror_Finish7951 on

      If only we had built up like 40 years experience at attracting capital

    7. Narwhal_2112 on

      A lot of the discussion is focused around “the current housing crisis has been caused by the government’s failure to build social housing,” but if people stood back for a second, put all ideological biases aside, and thought about what that would actually entail, they might have a different outlook.

      For the government to make any attempt to keep housing supply in line with current population growth, they would need to build dozens of Ballymun-type complexes each year. It won’t be the cosy three-bed semi-detached council houses of yesteryear.

      And seeing how the current system of national and local government seems incapable of maintaining basic public infrastructure—public toilets, etc.—I sincerely doubt these new social housing developments will end up being nice places to live.

      The most prudent approach would be to dampen housing demand and let housing construction catch up. Because sustained building of 60,000 units a year will leave Ireland as just one big concrete suburb rather than green country we all love.

    8. _LightEmittingDiode_ on

      Love the way they decided *not* to avail of basically interest free capital when interest rates were negative to do…anything, and now they’ve come to this conclusion when they’re up again. Utter incompetent bastards.

    9. 1) Deal with land value (site value tax), increase competition in the the building materials sector (create more competition, challenge CRH, for example), stop delaying electricity projects, get water & wastewater problems sorted ASAP.

      2) Bring in construction workers from low-wage countries on 12-month visas.

      3) Find the balance between landlord / tenant rights:
      – Tenants should enjoy more certainty around tenure, minimum accommodation standards should be high, lots of notice required before tenancies can end, etc.
      – Speed up evictions in situations where rent has not been paid. The single biggest reason landlords prefer short-term lets to long term tenants is because the eviction process can take anything between 9-18 months. That is 9+ months of mortgage repayments etc without any income on the property, and it will never be recouped.

      4) Sort out the fucking planning system. 6 months decision time for planning with no recourse to courts. Simplify it.

      That is it.

      Remove the limiting factors around site availability, reduce the land costs, challenge monopolies in the construction sector, bring in temporary labour, and create balanced tenant & landlord rights. International capital would be drawn to this environment.

    10. jonnieggg on

      Three international financial parasites will love this. This country is just a prostitute for international bankers.

    11. OopsWrongAirport on

      Counterintuitively, I actually think international finance is part of the problem

      Too much capital is flowing into an at-capacity construction sector and a constrained housing market as an asset investment expecting the same returns as if invested in productive enterprise and competing with bonds, etc

      It also directs labour and supplies into luxury developments (highest return)

      What we actually need is a Government with some balls that will front up the cost in the form of public debt, which is far cheaper than international finance, and which will stop frivolous developments (hotels, luxury apartments) for a time in favour of forcing labour supply into things we actually need (basic housing and essential infrastructure)

    12. MAVERICK910 on

      No problem bailing out bondholders and banks. In fact they did it overnight.

      15 years into this mess and they are still deflecting.

    13. Isn’t is miraculous how smoothly they shift from “This is a complex problem that can’t be solved by throwing money at it” during years of 0.00% ECB rates to “We can solve this problem but we’ll need money to throw at it” now that cash is scarce on the ground. Absolute scum run this country, just covering their backs until the pension fills up.

    14. dano1066 on

      Or they could just build some feckin apartment blocks. Not everyone is looking for a 3 bedroom semi detached house. It’s just insane this isn’t a priority. So many people could be houses very happily in apartments if we weren’t so terrified of tall buildings

    15. B0bLoblawLawBl0g on

      13 billion maybe?

      The business and political elite have this country tightly stitched up to serve their own interests. If the RCC hadn’t utterly lost credibility, I’ve no doubt we’d be hearing sermons about how coliving is the Christian thing to do.

    16. Revolutionary_Pen190 on

      60k homes …. Just build up and use the apartments that save space for more green areas.

      The only way you’re gonna make this happen is to build over 8 stories and tell them it’s this or keep crying for housing with no infrastructure in the commuter towns

    17. 21stCenturyVole on

      Government: “*Insert excuses for doing nothing.*”

    18. tubbymaguire91 on

      Bullshit

      If they got that money tomorrow they couldn’t deliver half that output.

      They can’t project manage even with infinite resources.

    19. RobotIcHead on

      When you look at the cost of building apartments to the standard required in mid rise building with the planning process in Ireland, there is no way that the government could afford to do that each year. Also the cost of buying the same apartment puts it out of reach of a large percentage of the population. The higher density of people is needed, quite badly in fact. It makes easier to deliver public services (like transport) and stop the car centric nature of towns and cities.

      So somewhere in this equation something is going to have to change. The external finance is a given, not just because the government lacks the skills, finance and knowledge to build housing at scale but the level of oversight would cripple the project.

      It also means that buying is off table so that means renting/leasing and will take a long time for the return on investment to materialise. That means the government will need to maintain the policies to attract investment for a very long time over 10 years, even 20 years.

      It also means getting local authorities to agree to let mid rise buildings to be built, changing the urban design mindset especially in the cities. This will not be popular with a lot of voters.

      The housing policies of successive government and local authorities decisions have fucked housing in Ireland to a degree that is actually astonishing. Tough and unpopular decisions are going to be required to repair it. Long term thinking and planning will be needed.

      But ultimately I think it is destroyed, I actually advise younger relatives to leave Ireland and I think Ireland is a great place to live, way better than a lot of other places. But housing and urban planning is so key to so many aspects of life and it is so god awful here, it is just not worth bothering with.

    20. Optimal_Pool9371 on

      Let’s also focus on reducing the number of people who come to this country (that are not tourists or filling critical roles).

    21. Floodzie on

      We have the money, but FF/FG will always make sure their friends/benefactors get rich instead.

      Already, why are some Irish renters paying rent to Canadian pension funds, instead of Irish Government-backed housing bodies via Cost Rental?

      I wonder what the next tribunal will cost…

    22. Parking_Tip_5190 on

      Just an FYI – We’ll hit in the region of 25k closings this year.

    23. carlmango11 on

      Didn’t we kick all of those guys out because they were greedy capitalists? Ireland prefers price fixing and banning stuff.

    24. Hour_Mastodon_9404 on

      If only this government was as good at coming up with ways they can do something as they are at coming up with reasons why they can’t.

    25. Rusty_Shortsword on

      If you can’t think yourself through a problem, it’s pretty unlikely you’ll be able to buy your way out of it.

      What’s the children’s hospital bill up to these days?

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