Well we know who has been giving him brown paper bags full of money then.
TheLegendOfMart on
Ok and?
So you just steal it instead and tell them to kick rocks?
Logical-Brief-420 on
Can’t say I understand this whole thing. We ban it here and they’ll just do it elsewhere, the end result is the same.
There is no putting the AI genie back in it’s bottle
AncientStaff6602 on
Good and so what? Ai shouldn’t be a deductive force but rather additive. It needs to be a tool not a replacement.
I’m all for Ai but not when it destroys the work force at large
callsignhotdog on
Asking people to pay for the food they take from Supermarkets could “kill” the Eating Food and Continuing to Live industry.
StandardNerd92 on
I guess Clegg thinks it’s easier to do what you want and afterward say you’re sorry.
Shot-Personality9489 on
Nick Clegg already ruined one generation of talented young kids, why not have a bash at ruining another.
RyeZuul on
Stopping pyramid schemes also harms pyramid scheme business models.
tufftricks on
Man who’s paycheck is paid by the AI lobby lobbies for AI fuckery, unsurprising
Bluemechanic on
Then let it die. If a business can’t afford to pay for the resources it needs to run then it’s clearly not fit for purpose.
dumbosshow on
This is the problem nicely summarised. AI is a technology which has gigantic potential to help the human race, to make things like monitoring the effects of climate change or making medical infrastructure much more efficient.
However, because neoliberalism reigns supreme and our ruling classes are populated by money scrounging bastards, it will be used mainly to maximise profits. Why the fuck should the ‘AI industry’ be allowed to negatively impact people in order to continue raking it in? If, right now, we can’t use it sustainably or without further endangering the job market (which is already in a sorry state), if it’s clearly not going to be used in the interests of regular people, why should we be expected to accept that?
PhilosopherAny6452 on
Good. If it can’t sustain itself by being independently creative then what have we got
Talkertive- on
So what the problem with that … why are politicians so quick to come to the defence of private corporations… if someone were pirate content they’re liable to go jail yet they’re now trying argue to allow private ai companies to steal content
JagoHazzard on
Improved policing would kill the theft industry, too. What’s his point?
Seriously, though, speaking as someone who’s already seen my work swiped by AI, screw Clegg. I don’t see why some lazy parasite should reap the benefits of my hard work, while I get nothing.
MrThrownAway12 on
If your industry depends on taking away the right of artists to protect their original works then it shouldn’t be an industry in the first place.
Kobruh456 on
I make a business, where I steal things from people’s homes and resell them.
“If the government says I can’t steal things, this will kill my business!”
Roadrunna on
What’s coming along to make the Nick Clegg industry obsolete?
mediguarding on
Great! Isn’t he working at Meta now? I hope his job tanks.
Fuzzy-Loss-4204 on
So he is suggesting we kill one industry, to save another,
ShondaVanda on
Then kill it, you can’t just steal with impunity because not being a thief is too inconvenient to profits.
jnthhk on
Child labour laws force up pricing!
Safe disposal of nuclear waste drives up energy costs!
Police ruin stealing industry!
Why do we put up with this red tape?!
setokaiba22 on
Okay so then we can also get rid of PRS which is built into government legalisation but they refuse to deal with. It regards copyright for artists and such and by all accounts artists hate it. If you play music at work with the public and such you need to pay them. Cinemas pay them despite fees and licensing already been including you’d have imagined when the film company made the film.
They now want to come for booking fees, transaction fees too and increase even more % that they take from many industries and it’s utterly ridiculous.
If that’s required then it goes without saying using copyrighted work with AI should have the same charge – it’s the same thing
Nice_Back_9977 on
Nick Clegg who commanded a multi-million dollar salary at Meta but thinks other people are just being awkward if they expect remuneration for the use of their work.
FatFarter69 on
After Nick Clegg tanked the Lib Dem’s credibility for about a decade I don’t think anyone should be taking anything he says seriously, I sure don’t.
WanderingArtist2 on
Good. Fucking kill the cunt stone dead and make the world a better place.
IlliterateNonsense on
This goes for many politicians and ex-politicians, but Nick Clegg is a fantastic example of failing upwards.
Managed to be completely unremarkable in his political career, except for campaigning on not increasing university tuition, and then rescinded that the moment he got a sniff of power.
Now he’s raking in the AI bags at Meta. It’s not exactly surprising, but it makes a mockery of people who actually have talent or skill.
chrisgilesphoto on
That’s ok Nick, just bring in UBI for everyone in the creative industry to live off of instead. We can’t all pivot to Cyber.
spinosaurs70 on
I both hate AI (at least for generative content) and think the copyright arguments in the US (obviously the UK legal context are different) are weak as hell.
Seems bad though for the UK to kill yet another tech sector when everyone else in China and the US is going full steam ahead.
soulsteela on
But piracy is going to kill the multimedia industry, if they don’t pay for everything how will the artists survive?
pikachume33 on
And not paying arts for using their work will kill the creative industry
Haravikk on
Good. If an “industry” can only exist as a result of theft and defying laws then it deserves to die.
Meanwhile, has Clegg ever encountered an arse he won’t lick?
DomusCircumspectis on
Remember when we were told not to pirate films/tv shows? So it’s totally fine for the ultra wealthy to do it to get richer but if the working class try it… true hypocrisy at its finest.
darpalarpa on
Actually asking for permission would kill most industries
TheOldOneReads on
Easy answer: Whenever an artist’s work is referenced by generative AI, pay them. If that cuts into the tech-bros’ profit margins a little, then so what? They already pay the people whom they can’t steal from.
_Featherstone_ on
Asking for permission would also kill the burglary industry, so I guess that’s legit now.
another_online_idiot on
I want AI to be changing my sheets, vacuuming the house and cooking for me. I don’t need AI to produce art.
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Well we know who has been giving him brown paper bags full of money then.
Ok and?
So you just steal it instead and tell them to kick rocks?
Can’t say I understand this whole thing. We ban it here and they’ll just do it elsewhere, the end result is the same.
There is no putting the AI genie back in it’s bottle
Good and so what? Ai shouldn’t be a deductive force but rather additive. It needs to be a tool not a replacement.
I’m all for Ai but not when it destroys the work force at large
Asking people to pay for the food they take from Supermarkets could “kill” the Eating Food and Continuing to Live industry.
I guess Clegg thinks it’s easier to do what you want and afterward say you’re sorry.
Nick Clegg already ruined one generation of talented young kids, why not have a bash at ruining another.
Stopping pyramid schemes also harms pyramid scheme business models.
Man who’s paycheck is paid by the AI lobby lobbies for AI fuckery, unsurprising
Then let it die. If a business can’t afford to pay for the resources it needs to run then it’s clearly not fit for purpose.
This is the problem nicely summarised. AI is a technology which has gigantic potential to help the human race, to make things like monitoring the effects of climate change or making medical infrastructure much more efficient.
However, because neoliberalism reigns supreme and our ruling classes are populated by money scrounging bastards, it will be used mainly to maximise profits. Why the fuck should the ‘AI industry’ be allowed to negatively impact people in order to continue raking it in? If, right now, we can’t use it sustainably or without further endangering the job market (which is already in a sorry state), if it’s clearly not going to be used in the interests of regular people, why should we be expected to accept that?
Good. If it can’t sustain itself by being independently creative then what have we got
So what the problem with that … why are politicians so quick to come to the defence of private corporations… if someone were pirate content they’re liable to go jail yet they’re now trying argue to allow private ai companies to steal content
Improved policing would kill the theft industry, too. What’s his point?
Seriously, though, speaking as someone who’s already seen my work swiped by AI, screw Clegg. I don’t see why some lazy parasite should reap the benefits of my hard work, while I get nothing.
If your industry depends on taking away the right of artists to protect their original works then it shouldn’t be an industry in the first place.
I make a business, where I steal things from people’s homes and resell them.
“If the government says I can’t steal things, this will kill my business!”
What’s coming along to make the Nick Clegg industry obsolete?
Great! Isn’t he working at Meta now? I hope his job tanks.
So he is suggesting we kill one industry, to save another,
Then kill it, you can’t just steal with impunity because not being a thief is too inconvenient to profits.
Child labour laws force up pricing!
Safe disposal of nuclear waste drives up energy costs!
Police ruin stealing industry!
Why do we put up with this red tape?!
Okay so then we can also get rid of PRS which is built into government legalisation but they refuse to deal with. It regards copyright for artists and such and by all accounts artists hate it. If you play music at work with the public and such you need to pay them. Cinemas pay them despite fees and licensing already been including you’d have imagined when the film company made the film.
They now want to come for booking fees, transaction fees too and increase even more % that they take from many industries and it’s utterly ridiculous.
If that’s required then it goes without saying using copyrighted work with AI should have the same charge – it’s the same thing
Nick Clegg who commanded a multi-million dollar salary at Meta but thinks other people are just being awkward if they expect remuneration for the use of their work.
After Nick Clegg tanked the Lib Dem’s credibility for about a decade I don’t think anyone should be taking anything he says seriously, I sure don’t.
Good. Fucking kill the cunt stone dead and make the world a better place.
This goes for many politicians and ex-politicians, but Nick Clegg is a fantastic example of failing upwards.
Managed to be completely unremarkable in his political career, except for campaigning on not increasing university tuition, and then rescinded that the moment he got a sniff of power.
Now he’s raking in the AI bags at Meta. It’s not exactly surprising, but it makes a mockery of people who actually have talent or skill.
That’s ok Nick, just bring in UBI for everyone in the creative industry to live off of instead. We can’t all pivot to Cyber.
I both hate AI (at least for generative content) and think the copyright arguments in the US (obviously the UK legal context are different) are weak as hell.
Seems bad though for the UK to kill yet another tech sector when everyone else in China and the US is going full steam ahead.
But piracy is going to kill the multimedia industry, if they don’t pay for everything how will the artists survive?
And not paying arts for using their work will kill the creative industry
Good. If an “industry” can only exist as a result of theft and defying laws then it deserves to die.
Meanwhile, has Clegg ever encountered an arse he won’t lick?
Remember when we were told not to pirate films/tv shows? So it’s totally fine for the ultra wealthy to do it to get richer but if the working class try it… true hypocrisy at its finest.
Actually asking for permission would kill most industries
Easy answer: Whenever an artist’s work is referenced by generative AI, pay them. If that cuts into the tech-bros’ profit margins a little, then so what? They already pay the people whom they can’t steal from.
Asking for permission would also kill the burglary industry, so I guess that’s legit now.
I want AI to be changing my sheets, vacuuming the house and cooking for me. I don’t need AI to produce art.