Cari sloveni,
Il compagno di slovacco vuole trascorrere la luna di miele a luglio con sua moglie nel tuo bellissimo paese. Trasportavamo in auto, dormivamo molto probabilmente nella tenda. Adoriamo correre, trail running (la moglie lo adora, non credo che le colline siano pensate per essere gestite), escursioni e passare il tempo nella natura.
Non abbiamo alcun itinerario in testa (qualcosa nelle Alpi di Kamnik – Savinja, intorno alla regione di Golak, Julian Alps, ..). Tutto quello che so, mi piacerebbe scalare Triglav, ma mi aspetto che questa regione sia affollata. Com’è l’area di Grintovec a luglio? Cosa consiglieresti di includere nel nostro piano? Non abbiamo paura dell’elevazione, siamo escursionisti forti e veloci. Se hai familiarità con Aveva Fatra E Grande Fatra Parco nazionale in Slovacchia, sarebbe perfetto. Green Hills con viste, percorsi percorsi.
Finora ho pianificato Grintovec Tour E Črnivec Pass cerchio. Se è stupido da fare, accetto tutte le critiche e sono aperto al suggerimento di qualcuno che è più ben informato. Sono abbastanza fiducioso nella nostra capacità di coprire rapidamente il terreno, per esempio, dallo scorso agosto – 23 km con alte 1.856 m in 6 ore e 37 minuti, abbiamo camminato solo).
Forse circa 7 giorni in Slovenia e 7 giorni in Croazia – Istra penisola. Grazie per i tuoi suggerimenti e consigli.
di TeaaMann
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I don’t know much about hiking, but this page is worth checking. You can search by elevation, by duration, by difficulty, etc.
Here’s an example of something not too difficult. At the bottom you have different starting points, with time estimates,…
https://www.hribi.net/gora/vojkova_koca_na_nanosu/26/471
Still snow on the top but probably will be fine in few weeks
Your Grintovec tour is an epic hike. Be aware that you’ll be spending a significant amount of time on very rocky and exposed terrain that is not that simple to navigate. Unless you’re really sure in your ability, I’d consider shortening it due to how difficult the terrain is.
I’d suggest starting from the north side at Ravenska Kočna, ascending Koroška Rinka first, then follow the trail to Skuta, traverse the ridge until Grintovec, back track to Mlinarsko sedlo, descend to Češka koča and back to the starting point. The reason you need to back track to Mlinarsko sedlo is that the trail between Grintovec and Jezerska Kočna is closed. Please check for closures and other info at the [official site](https://mapzs.pzs.si/path/31627?lang=en).
With what you wrote, you should be fine with Grintovec. It’s more of a hike then run though as it’s most of time a bit too steep to run. For Crnivec pass circle I can’t tell much (I’m slightly more west, so I don’t run in that are), but if you decide to come some 20-30km west, there’s few of my suggestions.
One is trail around Begunjscica. It’s from some 12km and 1000m ascend and up, depending how much you want to add to “original” loop. It has some of nicest views when passing southern slope of Begunjscica.
Another option, which is around 25k with about 2000m of ascend is loop starting in Zirovnica, going up to Stol, crossing Vrtaca, passing Zelenica hut and going up to Begunjscica before descending back to Zirovnica. Both of these two are perfectly fine for running except for few shorter parts. And then even more west in mountains above Pokljuka or Kranjska Gora, there’s endless amount of great running trails.
I am a very experienced hiker and trail runner. What you have planned for your Grintovec hike is extremely difficult with multiple points where speed is reduced due to technical terrain and you would be surmounting more than 3000 m altitude gain with a strong chance of afternoon storms. Be careful to start really early if you intend to circle this in one day.
I’d recommend you visit Velika Planina with a circular route from Kraljev hrib or Stahovica, Storzic ridge loop is an awesome thing to hike and run as well as Kalski greben circle which can be done from Jezerce planina or from Kamniska Bistrica
> All I know, I would love to climb Triglav, but I expect this region to be crowded. How is Grintovec area in July?
There will be many people on parts of that tour (especially from Kamniška Bistrica to Kamniško sedlo and on the descent from Grintovec), but not so many that you would need to wait in line.
> If you are familiar with Mala Fatra and Velka Fatra National Park in Slovakia, it would be perfect. Green hills with views, runnable routes
That Grintovec tour is definitely not green hills with runnable routes. For example, you can see the part of that tour between Mlinarsko sedlo and Grintovec in the second part of [this video](https://youtu.be/Tai_SpZyZWg?t=245).
If you you don’t have experience in alpine terrain, I would not recommend the parts of the tour between Brana and Turska gora and between Mlinarsko sedlo and Grintovec (Edit: And the part up and down Skuta). And even some of the less demanding parts are not runnable because the terrain consists of large rocks, is very steep and a bit exposed in places and because the trail is not that easy to follow so you need to stop and look for trail markings from time to time.
> familiar with Mala Fatra and Velka Fatra National Park in Slovakia
Grintovec tour is at least one order of magnitude more demanding than Mala/Velika Fatra. It is alpine terrain and exposed at places so you both need to be without fear of heights.
**And beware of summer storms, they are violent in that part of Slovenia.**
Use offline capable mapping software (LocusMaps, GpxViewer) with routes.
Bring safety kit and helm; they don’t weight a lot but are gold worth when needed. https://www.hribi.net/izlet/v_koncu_grintovec_cez_kokrsko_in_mlinarsko_sedlo/3/16/538
Also mind that wild camping is strictly prohibited in Slovenia so if you do camp, be sure to be well hidden , camp later and leave early. As affordable mountain huts are, sleep there, bring your national association card for better prices.
Wish you safe step and pleasant experience.
I’ve walked a couple of times the southern part of your Črnivec route: it’s not crowded at all and you’ll probably not even meet anyone until you reach the first pastures or Menina planina proper. You’re wife will probably love it as it is very runner friendly.
The Grintovec tour on the other hand is, well, a different story. As Substantial_Entry325 said, it’s something like 3000m elevation difference and 20 hours of serious walking. I really wouldn’t try to do it in one day if it’s your first time here, considering that especially between grintavec and kamnisko saddle there is some really rough terrain, even if you are in good shape.
If you plan to camp outside (which is not allowed in Slovenia anyway), you’ll be carrying extra gear (tent and sleeping bag, enough water etc), so plan accordingly. You have two options for sleeping and eating: Cojzova hut on Kokrško saddle and Kamniška hut na Kamniško saddle. The prices are very reasonable. There are also two small shelters in the area (Bivak pod Skuto na Malih podih and Bivak Pavla Kemperla (under the eastern side of Grintovec)), where you can sleep in theory. But in my experience, in summer months, they are always full to the brim. They are meant to be used as an shelter in case of a thunderstorm or some other emergency.