Gli agenti di polizia che hanno spruzzato e abbinato un amputato di 92 anni a casa di assistenza non hanno cancellato l’assalto

    https://news.sky.com/story/police-officers-who-pepper-sprayed-and-tasered-92-year-old-amputee-in-care-home-cleared-of-assault-13376045

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    1. antipodal87 on

      Knife-wielding deranged old man was subjected to non-lethal force to bring them under control. I fail to see how this is controversial.

      Perhaps the other residents of the care home simply objected to being treated like the sun doesn’t shine out their arse.

      Edit; lots of people here apparently haven’t been threatened with a knife before.

      Edit2; having watched the video, that man was absolutely looking to stab someone. Proper use of force applied imho.

    2. killswitch101 on

      I’ve seen rocks with more mobility than that 92 year old had in the video. The fact that the two officers were so fearful of him that they had to resort to pepper spray and a taser, indicates that they should probably pursue a career elsewhere and not in the police force.

    3. Archelaus_Euryalos on

      90 seconds of actual work followed by 3 minutes of unnecessary violence, he was immobile and out of his mind, he wasn’t a perpetrator, he was a victim…

    4. Smelly-Bottom on

      The issue is that in order for the situation to have been dealt with in a common sense manner, i.e. the police saying this is clearly not worth our time and leaving the staff to do their fucking jobs, the officers would have had to ignore their training. They did things by the book. The book is the problem.

    5. andrewscool101 on

      Nah sorry don’t agree with this at all.

      They spent no time trying to de-escalate the situation. It’s clear the man was in a state of confusion, rather than trying to calm him down the officers treated him more like an annoyance that they needed to deal with quickly so they could get back to doing other things.

      Also it was clear he wasn’t going to lunge out the chair with one leg and stab someone. If calming him down didn’t work, surely whacking his hand with their baton would have eventually caused him to let go of the knife. That’s a hell of a lot safer than tasering and pepper spraying someone of his age.

    6. Careless_Agency5365 on

      Ok… so I understand that a jury cleared the officers. They will have had more insight into this case than I ever will…

      But seeing as I can literally watch what happened I’m free to say WTF is wrong with those officers.

      Maybe some use of force was inevitable, maybe the exact amount of force they used was inevitable but… they talk for 90 seconds!

      This doesn’t seem right.

    7. A case of lawful, but fucking awful.

      Hopefully, the police still get rid of them through internal misconduct procedures.

      If you can’t handle a man over 90, with one leg, armed with a fucking adapted butter knife without resorting to force(not even 2 minutes into the conversation) then you shouldn’t be trusted to have power over the general public.

      The care home staff are to blame for this aswell, no need to call the police in this instance.

    8. Real-Difficulty7003 on

      Urinary Tract Infection, dehydration causes delirium. Any rookie whose worked around old people know this. The perpetrators will most likely be doxed, even found non guilty. Disgust doesn’t come close to how sick this makes me.

    9. EddViBritannia on

      Absolute piss take that people in this country are locked up for defending themselves. But two police officers can pepperspray and taser a 92 year old wheelchair bound man with a butter knife.

    10. RyanMcCartney on

      Absolute self-preservationist bullshit.

      I’ve watched the video, and know this for a fact, as I work security in a hospital dealing directly with many elderly patients who have done similar or worse.

      A 92 year old immobile man with a butter knife does not deserve to be tased. There was risk, but absolutely no threat to life.

    11. Only_Quote_Simpsons on

      I wonder if they took a softer approach, it would have been a different outcome.

      The ol fella was clearly confused, and the two officers came in like billy big balls, I don’t even think they really explained to him what was going on…

    12. Barca-Dam on

      I’m not the fittest of guys. But I truly believe i could take a knife from a 92 year amputee without using too much force or a taser

    13. External-Piccolo-626 on

      They might have got off legally but this is fucking embarrassing for them.

    14. devskov01 on

      Just pointing out, the whole problem of police not chasing criminals on scooters, not arresting shoplifters and basically not policing in general began/begins with all the bleeding heart liberals here vilifying the police for doing their job effectively.

      Criminality and/or dangerous behavious should not be excused due to age or mental/physical capacity.

    15. mitcheehd on

      Change the headline: Police cleared of manslaughter of 92-year-old amputee in care home

    16. Uncle___Marty on

      Not surprising to see yet more corruption in the police. Not a wonder nobody trusts cops.

    17. Huge___Milkers on

      ‘Waaah waaaah why does everyone hate us, show us more respect’

    18. Celestial__Peach on

      “Smith previously told jurors he did not see that the pensioner was disabled and using a wheelchair until after the incident as he was focused on the knife.

      In his evidence, Smith also denied hitting Mr Burgess with a baton, claiming he flicked it towards the pensioner’s wrist to “knock the knife out” of his hand.

      Meanwhile, Comotto said she believed using the Taser was the safest way to “protect” Mr Burgess as she feared her colleague using the baton again would cause more harm”

      So, he didnt see the wheelchair, a large and conspicuously noticeable aid..

      He ‘flicked’ the baton. What a way to play it down

      If he truly didn’t see the wheelchair, that raises questions about, his situational awareness, you know a key skill for police. Was his focus was so tunneled that he couldn’t properly assess the scene?

      Hes contradicted himself. He describe the level of control and precision he suggests with the baton flick, hes aware enough to aim precisely at a wrist, he should’ve been aware enough to notice a wheelchair, no?

      Hes a lying pos

    19. Radiant-Ad-4853 on

      If The police can’t take on a 92 year old how will they deal with knife gangs . I’m not British but this is bleak ngl . 

    20. LurkHereLurkThere on

      It should never have been assault, it should be attempted murder.

      Hitting someone highly likely to have heart or central nervous system issues with a taser is not normal routine policing.

    21. Any_Acanthocephala55 on

      Firstly, facts matter, the knife he was holding, was already reported as a butter knife, in other words, it had no point and was blunt. Secondly, from the point the 2 scumbag officers turned up, till they pepper sprayed him, only took 1 minute and 23 seconds. Thirdly, the care home he was in, was a specialist care home for people with extreme dementia and he was having sundowning episode, where people have no me memory of anything, they become extremely scared and confused and have no recollection of who anyone is. So, those who called the Police SHOULD, have known this and Should have been trained, and if they was, then they would have known he would have come out of the sundowning given time. He posed NO threat whatsoever, he had one leg, was 92 years old, scared and confused, and holding a BUTTER knife.
      This is an absolute disgrace!!! And yet, those 2 scumbags at Manchester airport, actually assaulted officers and got manhandled correctly under the circumstances and yet, all officers involved got suspended and are under investigation STILL, and the 2 scumbags have STILL not been charged!
      Two tier system in effect, so much for so called white privilege and white supremacy. The positive is though, with all the obvious two tier Policing and policies, it is awakening the people to the communist and Marxist ideologies and the backlash is coming.

    22. Ready-Zombie5635 on

      I’m not surprised they were cleared but in my opinon the only thing that was in danger that day was the threat of toast being buttered.

      My mother lives with me, she is 92 years old too, and has dementia, and she has some major tantrums where she threatens me. She also has the advantage of having two legs and gets around with a walker.

      If she threatened me with a butter knife, I would feel about as threatened as if a toddler had done it. She can barely hold it, let alone muster the strength or speed to be any threat at all, unless I tripped and fell onto the blade.

      Some 92 year-olds are quite fit for their age. However, I think the ‘tell’ is the wheelchair and the fact he only had one leg.

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