Is this more complicated though, in a sense that Americans have to continue to pay taxes in the US whilst working overseas?
Although I imagine there’s a loophole somewhere, especially for those who earn more than the rest of us.
One_Alternative_6965 on
Yeah get those 3 people and that lab donkey quick!
pilldickle2048 on
We are acting at light speed to acquire talent fleeing the United States. We have secured funding to bring over A DOZEN scientists!
Hot_Preparation4777 on
Every fůcking day it seems there is a stupíd article like this on this sub from some naïve user who hates the USA.
Here is the reality and the bottom line. Europe doesnt offer anywhere near the same pay as the USA and until they do they can’t even begin to have this conversation. Europe offers poverty wages compared to the USA for jobs like these.
Vaestmannaeyjar on
Won’t work. Getting people in would be easy enough, but the research budgets in the EU are ridiculously low, and that’s something researchers actually care about as much as their own salary.
narullow on
I very much doubt that.
Americans like to talk about it a lot but the people that matter the most would be absolutely miserable in EU because it would mean massive decline in their living standard.
BaylinerVR5 on
I can’t see it happening. American-born, but grew up in Europe and now I’m back in Michigan. I’ll eventually come back to Europe once I’ve met my financial goals, but European salary are far too depressed for anyone with a skill set desires in the labour market to consider it.
I’m in Michigan and admittedly I work 100% remote, but I make 3x here than I did in London. And my pay in London was above average in my field. I’m a wage slave and already see it as a bad trade off, I can’t imagine doing it as a talented start-up founder.
When it comes to tech, Europe just isn’t a single-market in the way it is for goods.
Xibalba_Ogme on
>Europe can capture the US brain drain — if it acts fast
So it can’t capture the US brain drain
I mean, the EU ? Act fast ?
WhereasSpecialist447 on
like always, europe wont do anything. BUT THEY will have “discussions”! a lot of them.
Equivalent_Day_4078 on
Those who mention money are missing a crucial point, academic freedom. As a mathematician I would rather be middle class in my country than rich in USA if I have to fudge my results so that I don’t contradict the rhetoric of the government. I would think a lot of medical researchers would feel the same with RFK in charge of the health department.
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OliveCompetitive3002 on
What US Brain Drain exactly? I’ve read about it for months but haven’t seen any reliable data so far. Just tons of what ifs and maybes.
1LimePlease on
Europe could focus on cultivating the resources it already has. I left academia because funding is awarded to only 1 out of every 10 applications – physics
schtickshift on
All those tech bro refugees from Silicon Valley are landing on the shores of Europe with nothing but the clothes on their backs and three 40ft containers in transit.
Aromatic-Deer3886 on
Whoa whoa whoa. We called dibs!
Broad_Hedgehog_3407 on
There’s a brain?.
Aware-Computer4550 on
Just wait it out for 3 more years. Some of this is so stupid it won’t last through the next administration whether it’s republican or Dem.
Jaded-Initiative5003 on
Our unis are already packed with Americans in the UK. What more can we do
Hapseri on
Wait a minute, there’s brains in Murica ??
Big-Conflict-4218 on
And then there’s a subset of people who were expecting matching salaries of the US in the EU oof
mikiencolor on
Fast? Well, time to give up on that dream.
Iamoggierock on
Brain drained a while back I think.
NoTown3670 on
It may not be plausible to snatch academics from the US since they still have huge freedoms and funding but Europe can have a larger slice of the pie when it comes to China, India and the rest of the World. Most of the “extraordinary brains” I’ve met from Turkey have always considered Europe a safer space for a future. Welfare state over luxury spending. Safety over fancy campuses. Bikes over automobiles 🤌
BHgent on
Won’t work. Smart people don’t want to be censored by European governments and not life under Sharia Law.
AncientAd6500 on
Okay so they won’t then.
andrew199411 on
>Europe
>Fast
lmao
djingo_dango on
Wake me up when the next Einstein (or Linus) moves from US to any European country
belliegirl2 on
I wish Europe wanted my brain.
jeremiasalmeida on
It will not work, because Europe is in the same path as USA. In every country fascists are getting more popular. This international fascist have the same ideas .
Lopendebank3 on
So Europe can’t…
Dear_Company_547 on
Europe should aim to attract the best minds regardless of where they’re from, by offering competitive salaries and positions and creating excellent research environments. That’s how the US got ahead in the first place – by taking in the smartest and best from elsewhere. It’s not just about money, it’s also about immigration and residency rules, as well as a welcoming work environment.
Tracerneo on
What if we don’t want them? You know, I and other Europeans already here would like the jobs, and to be invested in, not some American upset with the government they elected and “fleeing” into comfortable position.
North-Temperature938 on
yeah US brains can’t wait to work on much less funded projects in EU
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Is this more complicated though, in a sense that Americans have to continue to pay taxes in the US whilst working overseas?
Although I imagine there’s a loophole somewhere, especially for those who earn more than the rest of us.
Yeah get those 3 people and that lab donkey quick!
We are acting at light speed to acquire talent fleeing the United States. We have secured funding to bring over A DOZEN scientists!
Every fůcking day it seems there is a stupíd article like this on this sub from some naïve user who hates the USA.
Here is the reality and the bottom line. Europe doesnt offer anywhere near the same pay as the USA and until they do they can’t even begin to have this conversation. Europe offers poverty wages compared to the USA for jobs like these.
Won’t work. Getting people in would be easy enough, but the research budgets in the EU are ridiculously low, and that’s something researchers actually care about as much as their own salary.
I very much doubt that.
Americans like to talk about it a lot but the people that matter the most would be absolutely miserable in EU because it would mean massive decline in their living standard.
I can’t see it happening. American-born, but grew up in Europe and now I’m back in Michigan. I’ll eventually come back to Europe once I’ve met my financial goals, but European salary are far too depressed for anyone with a skill set desires in the labour market to consider it.
I’m in Michigan and admittedly I work 100% remote, but I make 3x here than I did in London. And my pay in London was above average in my field. I’m a wage slave and already see it as a bad trade off, I can’t imagine doing it as a talented start-up founder.
When it comes to tech, Europe just isn’t a single-market in the way it is for goods.
>Europe can capture the US brain drain — if it acts fast
So it can’t capture the US brain drain
I mean, the EU ? Act fast ?
like always, europe wont do anything. BUT THEY will have “discussions”! a lot of them.
Those who mention money are missing a crucial point, academic freedom. As a mathematician I would rather be middle class in my country than rich in USA if I have to fudge my results so that I don’t contradict the rhetoric of the government. I would think a lot of medical researchers would feel the same with RFK in charge of the health department.
BarTTTHHlona has entered the chat…
What US Brain Drain exactly? I’ve read about it for months but haven’t seen any reliable data so far. Just tons of what ifs and maybes.
Europe could focus on cultivating the resources it already has. I left academia because funding is awarded to only 1 out of every 10 applications – physics
All those tech bro refugees from Silicon Valley are landing on the shores of Europe with nothing but the clothes on their backs and three 40ft containers in transit.
Whoa whoa whoa. We called dibs!
There’s a brain?.
Just wait it out for 3 more years. Some of this is so stupid it won’t last through the next administration whether it’s republican or Dem.
Our unis are already packed with Americans in the UK. What more can we do
Wait a minute, there’s brains in Murica ??
And then there’s a subset of people who were expecting matching salaries of the US in the EU oof
Fast? Well, time to give up on that dream.
Brain drained a while back I think.
It may not be plausible to snatch academics from the US since they still have huge freedoms and funding but Europe can have a larger slice of the pie when it comes to China, India and the rest of the World. Most of the “extraordinary brains” I’ve met from Turkey have always considered Europe a safer space for a future. Welfare state over luxury spending. Safety over fancy campuses. Bikes over automobiles 🤌
Won’t work. Smart people don’t want to be censored by European governments and not life under Sharia Law.
Okay so they won’t then.
>Europe
>Fast
lmao
Wake me up when the next Einstein (or Linus) moves from US to any European country
I wish Europe wanted my brain.
It will not work, because Europe is in the same path as USA. In every country fascists are getting more popular. This international fascist have the same ideas .
So Europe can’t…
Europe should aim to attract the best minds regardless of where they’re from, by offering competitive salaries and positions and creating excellent research environments. That’s how the US got ahead in the first place – by taking in the smartest and best from elsewhere. It’s not just about money, it’s also about immigration and residency rules, as well as a welcoming work environment.
What if we don’t want them? You know, I and other Europeans already here would like the jobs, and to be invested in, not some American upset with the government they elected and “fleeing” into comfortable position.
yeah US brains can’t wait to work on much less funded projects in EU