Le scommesse in Spagna su 1 milione di migranti per mantenere la sua economia in crescita
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-05-29/spain-opens-doors-to-1-million-migrants-to-boost-workforce?embedded-checkout=true
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Le scommesse in Spagna su 1 milione di migranti per mantenere la sua economia in crescita
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-05-29/spain-opens-doors-to-1-million-migrants-to-boost-workforce?embedded-checkout=true
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Since I can’t read the article, the following is an assumption: Will the legalization of undocumented migrants mostly affect LATAM migrants? AFAIK the share of Muslims in Spain is relatively low co. Pared to France and Germany despite Spain being a landing point for migration from Africa. Indicating that Spain acted selectively: They integrated certain migrants (LATAM?) while intentionally letting others pass on their way to other EU countries without registration.
If this continues, Spain might actually not buck the trend of resisting MENAPT migration beyond what’s legally unquestionable, even if at the same time the total migration to Spain might increase.
Edit: Before I get a million downvotes cuz others have other numbers at hand: I checked if what I remember about the share of Muslims in Spain is correct and the variation in data seems to be huge:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Spain#:~:text=In%202024%20according%20to%20the,population%20of%2047%20million%20Spaniards.
> While the 2022 official estimation of Centro de Investigaciones Sociológicas (CIS) indicates that 2.8% of the population of Spain has a religion other than Catholicism,[4] according to an unofficial estimation of 2020 by the Union of Islamic Communities of Spain (UCIDE) the Muslim population in Spain represents the 4.45% of the total Spanish population as of 2019, of whom 42% were Spanish citizens (most of them with foreign family origins), 38% Moroccans, and 20% of other nationalities.[5][6]
Other sources claim values up to 6% from what I was able to find quickly.
~3% of population being Muslim in 2025 would track with my argumentation, >5% and a significant upwards trend less so.
I see no way this will backfire.
Everlasting growth in a finite system will make you do wild things I guess.
Whatever, entropy is the natural next stage for all of us. Nothing lasts forever.
It’s a surprisingly good article for something written in English. Looking at the writers, at least two of them live in Spain: one is Galician and the other lives in Madrid.
2050: Spain bets wrong.
Spoiler: Spain regrets it.
Everywhere that adopts mass immigration at scale regrets it and is objectively the worse for it. Crime goes up, the cities around them erode, the ways of love disappear as they knew and loved them, countries become poorer, services get worse and your taxes go up.
Let’s face it, they’re not talking about migrants from Ukraine, South Africa or Poland.
Im sure this is a brilliant plan!
Spain is almost 50 million in population, like how can more people make it better. Honestly boggles my mind but these excel politicians have no clue.
The results show that their model is working, Spain is the 2nd fastest growing economy in the EU.
Populism will never work, scapegoating minorities will never work.
Only real policies that look at the realities of the word will work.
We tried this in Canada, it did not work.
Spain in 10 years: “Why is everyone voting far right?”
Spain primarily brings in migrants from Latin America, while Germany and France are very focused on the Islamic world.
That’s why Spain is more successful in this regard.
We are not having children and pensions are a ponzi scheme, so instead of fixing the ponzi scheme to avoid upseting pensioners, we bring new “investors”.
Es un plan sin fisuras
Please let it be “educated immigrant” atleast and not some random rapists & radicals.
I know people who try to move legally there, for professions that are in high demand, and are trapped in the burocratic hell of legalizing diplomas and stuff. Meanwhile, illegal immigrants get a pass, and if they are latinamericans they will apply for their citizenship in 2 years.
As always, doing stuff properly never gets you anywhere.
As people clearly write without knowing much about Spain, the current plan for regularización is not about bringing people but about regularizing the situation of a lot of people that have already spent years working here. Its not much more than accepting reality. Its much better for everyone that all these people are in a regular situation than the opposite.
Edit:
to expand on this, It will only apply to people that were already in Spain in 2024, and had been for more than a year in Spain. The regularization will prioritise by time resided in Spain, and will give people a 1 year work permit. After that It will be up to individuals to apply for longer stay if they want.
The regularization is mostly caused by a change in immigration law that changed the requirements to obtain the residence overnight and left a lot of people in a complicated situation.
The people in the comments are not realizing that the migrants Spain gets are mainly from Latin America, so other countries where Spanish is the official language. The migrants already know Spanish so they don’t have problems integrating like some other people might have.
I look at all these comments referring to “Culture and Religion” and I wonder if I’m on a r/Europistan sub, or r/Maga sub, because it could be any of them, so similar, so scaring similar.
Article with paywall.
Low paid or high paid?
Well, there are some caveats to this statement. Firstly, most of the immigrants Spain has at the moment come from countries that generally integrate better—mainly Romanians, Colombians, and Italians, all from Latin-speaking backgrounds. These are not people coming from the poorest or least developed economies. They actually seek good salaries, modern working conditions, and increasingly, many of them are retirees.
So, the question is: who will do the low- to medium-paying jobs when these people grow old, retire, and no one comes to replace them?
Growth—that’s the name of the game. Sure, you can hope for it; the UK can tell a story about that. But you also need to be able to reach whatever level of economic impact you’re aiming for.
Socialism
Didn’t they vote to put a 100% tax on houses owned by foreigners
Its proportional.
Immigration is fine, and needed, but in the current form it is just reaching insane numbers. I think politicians have realised it’s a cheat code for increasing your population/power/economy without actually doing anything.
150-200k a year is a reasonable amount, imo. The millions a year are a problem.
There’s no betting, immigrants are exactly what allowed Spain to continue economic growth while other countries were shrinking. If politicians bother to look into the dynamics of the population pyramid, they’d be more ‘open’ to opening borders.
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In a few years they be screaming about the far right and asking how is it possible that they got to power.
I’m glad to know that our economy is growing. But how come out wages don’t grow?
I’m a scientist, working in a prominent university, and my salary is dreadful. I have to find ways to complement it and while so far it works, I’m seriously considering relocating to China where I’m being offered nearly 6 times my current based salary.
There’s money in Spain, but it doesn’t go to the pockets of everyday people.
How’s the fertility rate going there
Is that the Spain that already has 12% of it’s population unemployed with the 10 year average being 19% of their population unemployed or am I mixing it up with another Spain where this makes the slightest bit of sense ???
I thought Spain had high unemployment? Bring in 1 million more before solving the unemployment, the housing crisis and low pay? I’ll bet they need more islamization too!
4D chess moves?
where are all these people gonna live? Funny how we say we need immigration, but we refuse to build more housing. The political leaders are a meme
Canada made the same bet once. It didnt turn out well.
[“Trudeau announces sharp cuts to Canada’s immigration targets”](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd7n3rqyjqzo)
Immigration as a solution to demographic issues are temporary fixes at best.
Yeah, there is the integration issue that governments don’t put in the work to solve but the wjole world’s fertility rate is just about at replacement, meaning it won’t take long before the supply of young international workers dries up.
We need to prepare society for depopulation by reducing the burden pensioners place on young workers and we need to fix our culture. A lot of women feel that the role of motherhood is undervalued and taken for granted. And well… They aren’t wrong. Additionally young people are feeling a heavy economic burden and they feel like having children will set them back in an ever more competitive world. And well… they aren’t wrong.
Less people = less economy
And thats fine
For everyone saying stupid things: this is not new immigrants, it is about making it legal for those who already have been living in Spain to stay and work as other residents.
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