Ai bambini scolastici da insegnare sull’esercito e le guerre in classe per aumentare il reclutamento delle forze armate
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We did this in English when learning WW1 poetry.. *Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori*
Is this preparing us for the time that service guarantees citizenship?
Standard when I was a kid. Army, navy and air force all showed up. Interesting presentations and a few kids joined up after finishing school.
Nothing unusual for anyone born pre 90’s.
which armies? there are quite a few and they are pretty neat
Children literally learn nothing but the two world wars from primary through to GCSE.
They’re going to start teaching about wars? Wow, crazy. I hope they touch on a niche interest of mine, a very under-discussed conflict of the mid twentieth century.
I love to tell a 7 year old that when they’re 18 they should go kill some other 18 year olds
Of course we can’t be bothered to make the case for joining the military to people with developed brains, so we’re going to target impressionable children while their pre-cortex is soft and malleable and they have no sense of rationality.
If the reasons they intend to show kids are are any good, why aren’t they working on adults? Perhaps they don’t plan on making reasons, they know this is installing the next generation with propaganda.
If this country is going to be *worth* defending, it needs to stop with the evil shit. Like brainwashing kids into being happy with being fed into the Military Industrial Complex.
Wise people keep the fights more personal. Eye to eye. Face to face.
Sun Tzu: “Know thy enemy.”
Don’t let the battlefield blind you to the bigger picture. I never had to make it about destruction to resolve situations, even if I do have to use force.
I’m actually a ruthless monster. Saved lives and shit. I target the mind, not the body. Sends more of a message that way.
When did it stop? I left secondary school in 2011 and we were definitely had the army, navy and air force come in and talk to us about life in the service during my time.
It’s hard to teach any history without talking about wars. It’s also hard to teach any geography without talking about wars, or any religion education without talking about wars, even scientific advancements are often war related.
Humans just be doing war.
They’re kidding right?
Surely if they are going to teach kids about the horror of wars, the profane ideology behind most of them (religion, politics, money), the massive losses of lives, the detriment of survivors mental and physical health, the suffering behind much of world history; they wouldn’t actually increase recruitment numbers?
Or are they just going to glamorize it with propaganda like in the old days of rule britannia?
But when schools try to teach kids that gay people exist that’s “brainwashing”. Fucking state this country at times 🤦♂️
Okay, so reading the article, it’s about having Reservists come in to do a show-and-tell. – Though I’m not sure it will necessarily increase recruitment. Might help boost interest at least.
Personally that sounds interesting, as it provides a human element and interaction and change from focussing on facts and figures.
I would like there to be more and other show-and-tells, such as from a Farmer or Doctor or Electrician or even an Estate Agent! Just a method to show the variety of jobs out there and give a sneak-peek.
‘Taught’ in this case means exposing vulnerable kids to flagrant military propaganda 😑
Sounds OK – as long as they teach them about death, maiming and horrific injuries from explosions and flying metal.
I’m not convinced that the recruitment crisis is down to lack of public interest. From what I’ve read, it’s administrative bottlenecks that are the problem. Speed up the recruitment crisis and you’ll get more people into the forces.
In any case, it is worth the armed forces doing these sort of outreach things- not only to attract recruits but also to educate and inform the public as to what the armed forces do.
As long as they teach about the grizzly bits of war not just the “glory”.
An uh. Learning about war is supposed to *encourage* them to join?
Why would learning about war encourage kids to join up? Surely learning about it is enough to sober anyone up and think ‘nah screw that thanks, I’m not dying for some rich old assholes’.
Oh boy, we’re heading down the US route of “hey kids, wanna pwn some noobs in something OTHER than COD!?! Well have I got a suggestion for you…”
So we can’t teach kids about sex, especially anything non-hetero-vanilla, because it might makenthem want to try it out, but we can teach them the glorification of violent nationalism because…
Don’t forget to teach them some more modern wars! Less blackadder and more MW2 Drone killstreaks.
Put Full Metal Jacket or Paths Of Glory on for them
I think you are right, all our history should be taught dispassionately, factually correct and honestly, accepting the mistakes made – but also realising that judging the past by modern ethics is seriously flawed and gives us an unfair and twisted view of events.
In this era we are judging the past by standards that never existed at the time of events – further, many of these events are driven by religious bigotry as political ego and hubris.
For balance, they should probably play some uncut footage of a running battle and maybe bring in a couple of lads who lost limbs to IEDs for their take. Like I’m not trying to be edgy, people looking at going into frontline roles should have this shit presented to them.
The problem with recruitment is not a lack of volunteers. It’s capita/serco/g4s/whichever other cunts it’s been farmed out to taking so fucking long to sort anything people give up and get other jobs.
I teach war poetry and contemporary drama on The Great War but it has nothing to do with recruitment. Not one thing that Wilfred Owen or Siegfried Sassoon wrote is going to encourage you to enlist.
I teach it as it is incredible literature and it has discussion on civic rights, pacifism, misogyny, state-power, etc.
They need to show the last episode of Blackadder. That’ll do it.
Maybe if the horrors of war were already taught in schools instead of utter nonsense, we might not have so many Reddit armchair generals advocating for the needless slaughter of tens of thousands of men.
Oh boy if they join the army then they can have loyalty to the state disciplined into them. Definitely not any ulterior motive involved here!
You know what would boost recruitment, getting rid r the private recruitment company and doing it themselves. Also shortening the recruitment process from over a year to just a few months.
If anything hearing about war and the horrors soldiers go through made me want to jump ship lol, there’s no way I’m serving as fodder for some rich bastard’s proxy war
If you wouldn’t fight to protect the country, you don’t deserve to be here.
If they tell tell them the truth they won’t be so keen.
My grandparents’ generation fought to look after a country that was willing to look after them. Then the country paid them back for it with things like universal healthcare, public services that could be readily available and cheap for all to use and cheap universal council housing.
My parents generation sold all of the services and sold all of the housing.
Now I live in a country that doesn’t look after anyone, whether they’re willing to fight for it or not. A country that fights more to withdraw services and make life miserable for whichever demographic is the least able to resist.
Put our lives on the line for that? You’re having an absolute feckin laugh. It’s called a social contract. It’s something we used to have in this country when I was a little girl. Been sorely missed ever since.
“Guys, forget about what the teacher said last year about the age old lie used to recruit poor people into fighting the wars started by big babies with too much hate and money, with no regard for the needs of the actual population. Just sign up and go become cannon fodder!!”
I hate it here
I don’t think this is gonna go the way they hope it will.
if the army turns up acting all big and tough a bunch kids are going to be asking about war crimes in Iraq etc and probably being very well researched while they do. Never mind the recent news about how it’s basically an old boys network that cover sexual assault and more.
The world these people live in has gone.
You want people to fight for a country don’t turn it into a shithole rules by oligarchs a literal aristocracy and a fucking king.
So we can talk to them about war propaganda but talking to them about safe sex is somehow wrong?
It could be taught by ex soldiers who have had limbs blown off.
Teaching schoolchildren the reality of army and wars is NOT going to boost recruitment..
Lying to them on the other hand might just work..
They’re going to be groomed, is another way to put that.