The Centre for World University Rankings, i have never in my life heard of them
Ireland2385 on
Has anyone ever used this lot for rankings
Plus if some Asian or US college gets a major investment boost then they are always going to rank up further
Alastor001 on
Ranks are probably tied up to some big money, so no surprises there
DonkeyOfWallStreet on
Are they falling because we don’t have enough population going through them or because the quality is falling?
under-secretary4war on
Rankings are a complete con- they can be manipulated big time. However they do measure certain forms of investment and resources and our universities fail in that regard big time.
Illustrious_Read8038 on
Rankings are based on metrics like the number of publications, grants received, involvement in research programs and the like.
They are not really based on academically related to undergrads.
That’s why Harvard and MIT scores top every year. They have more post grads and post docs conducting research and creating spin out companies than they have undergrads.
“CWUR uses seven objective and robust indicators grouped into four areas to rank the world’s universities:
1) Education: based on the academic success of a university’s alumni, measured relative to the university’s size (25%)
2) Employability: based on the professional success of a university’s alumni, measured relative to the university’s size (25%)
3) Faculty: measured by the number of faculty members who have received top academic distinctions (10%)
4) Research:
i) Research Output: measured by the total number of research articles (10%)
ii) High-Quality Publications: measured by the number of research articles appearing in top-tier journals (10%)
iii) Influence: measured by the number of research articles appearing in highly-influential journals (10%)
iv) Citations: measured by the number of highly-cited research articles (10%)”
mrlinkwii on
ok and ?
Select-Cash-4906 on
It’s because two things the administration are using the funds with no oversight and using Visas for international students who many don’t have good English because they pay more. The result is the actual learning has degraded. Even when I was in college most master students were from India and other countries it doesn’t surprise me at all.
Weird-Description-86 on
It’s all nonsense. It’s big business looking for high paying customers. Let the US and UK take the business, who cares. Keep Irish universities for local people and Europeans who don’t buy in to this rubbish.
qwerty_1965 on
Do they fall in points or places? I can’t be arsed to click a pay site
doddmatic on
As far as I know , their methodology is based on quantitative measures like research outputs and publication metrics , and things like alumni in top positions at large companies (as a proxy for employability)and faculty with major international awards (as a proxy for ‘teaching quality’). I wouldn’t place much stock in it and there’s a huge bias towards wealthy institutions that HEIs in our system could never compete with based on the measures they value. There’s absolutely no consideration of the social and economic impact of teaching-focussed institutions as far as I can tell.
Happy70s on
I think we’re very good at undergraduate level but can’t attract or retain good students at postgraduate level and that’s reflected in the rankings.
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The Centre for World University Rankings, i have never in my life heard of them
Has anyone ever used this lot for rankings
Plus if some Asian or US college gets a major investment boost then they are always going to rank up further
Ranks are probably tied up to some big money, so no surprises there
Are they falling because we don’t have enough population going through them or because the quality is falling?
Rankings are a complete con- they can be manipulated big time. However they do measure certain forms of investment and resources and our universities fail in that regard big time.
Rankings are based on metrics like the number of publications, grants received, involvement in research programs and the like.
They are not really based on academically related to undergrads.
That’s why Harvard and MIT scores top every year. They have more post grads and post docs conducting research and creating spin out companies than they have undergrads.
“CWUR uses seven objective and robust indicators grouped into four areas to rank the world’s universities:
1) Education: based on the academic success of a university’s alumni, measured relative to the university’s size (25%)
2) Employability: based on the professional success of a university’s alumni, measured relative to the university’s size (25%)
3) Faculty: measured by the number of faculty members who have received top academic distinctions (10%)
4) Research:
i) Research Output: measured by the total number of research articles (10%)
ii) High-Quality Publications: measured by the number of research articles appearing in top-tier journals (10%)
iii) Influence: measured by the number of research articles appearing in highly-influential journals (10%)
iv) Citations: measured by the number of highly-cited research articles (10%)”
ok and ?
It’s because two things the administration are using the funds with no oversight and using Visas for international students who many don’t have good English because they pay more. The result is the actual learning has degraded. Even when I was in college most master students were from India and other countries it doesn’t surprise me at all.
It’s all nonsense. It’s big business looking for high paying customers. Let the US and UK take the business, who cares. Keep Irish universities for local people and Europeans who don’t buy in to this rubbish.
Do they fall in points or places? I can’t be arsed to click a pay site
As far as I know , their methodology is based on quantitative measures like research outputs and publication metrics , and things like alumni in top positions at large companies (as a proxy for employability)and faculty with major international awards (as a proxy for ‘teaching quality’). I wouldn’t place much stock in it and there’s a huge bias towards wealthy institutions that HEIs in our system could never compete with based on the measures they value. There’s absolutely no consideration of the social and economic impact of teaching-focussed institutions as far as I can tell.
I think we’re very good at undergraduate level but can’t attract or retain good students at postgraduate level and that’s reflected in the rankings.