La Commissione dell’UE rifiuta di rivelare gli orchestratori dietro la sua proposta di sorveglianza di massa, che porrebbe effettivamente porre fine alla privacy online dei cittadini.
La Commissione dell’UE rifiuta di rivelare gli orchestratori dietro la sua proposta di sorveglianza di massa, che porrebbe effettivamente porre fine alla privacy online dei cittadini.
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Ofurnic8tor69 on
I want to know, which portuguese MP´s are behind this, and what do they have to say about it 🙂
PoppedCork on
They get privacy. How ironic.
Khandaruh on
That’s surely a sign that we can trust them!
Ok-Pineapple2365 on
But North Korea….BAD!
Looool
L-Malvo on
It’s amazing how the EU is both building the privacy walls and demolishing them at the same time. I thought we were supposed to have common values. Apparently, the citizens understand, as we keep protesting this fucking proposal. Yet leadership keeps proposing it.
MogwaiYT on
It’s beyond satire. Blanked out list of people opposing other people’s privacy 😐
ExtraMaize5573 on
The unknown oligarchy will protect the working mans interests! What could go wrong trusting a unknown cabal?
WillingRich2745 on
Then we should make some educated guesses. Regarding Germany: There are parts of some parties (especially the CDU/CSU) that historically tended to push into this direction. Therefore I highly suspect leading CDU/CSU EU Politicians. Which parties/persons do you guys suspect?
Suedewagon on
Ironic
abc_744 on
I wonder why EU is willingly becoming same as China
Trang0ul on
How ironic!
CuriousCat31441 on
Can someone explain to me how this differs from the US patriot act?
I am very much against this, but I wish to understand how it compares to the patriot act that has beeen in effect in the us since 2001. Does this go further than that?
That_Succotash4974 on
Based EU amirite? Remember USB cables?
ItsMeishi on
Privacy for me but not for thee. Quite obvious that they know they wouldnt be safe if their names were out there, because clearly, it would be a VERY unpopular proposal amongst the general plebs. And rightly so.
ReturnOfTheSaint14 on
Yes because Europe reallyyyyy needs a PATRIOT Act-esque law,right? Just look at how well it performed in the States the total control of everyone’s privacy
tweek-in-a-box on
Hopefully some whistleblower leaks these
National_Pay_5847 on
Oh but I thought EU is wonderful and we’d go to shit without them?
It’s not the first time they’re pulling bullshit like this.
ImLonenyNunlovable on
Isnt it quite a problem regarding corruption when state level actors impede transparency purposefully?
morbihann on
Why are they the one to get to keep their privacy ?
Golden_Ace1 on
Well, turning europe into a 1984 dystopia seems like a dream to them.
The problem is that europeans keep voting for them (same here in Portugal).
Ventura, Le Pen, Kickl thrive in the hate bait, false arguments, and the moderate parties are incompetently adressing the subjects. Their leaders lack charisma, leadership and plausible solutions, making things worse for everyone instead of proving them wrong by acting competently.
Scotandia21 on
Where did this come from? I thought the EU was all about *protecting* privacy.
Eric-Lodendorp on
I’d like to actually speak to my MEP but fuck me because apparently the people voting against privacy get themselves the privacy to not be held accountable.
21Justanotherguy on
This is one of the few topic I’m good with it being repeted even every day. Everyone must know
Betonkauwer on
I love how easily swayed europhiles are. Give people a few token handwaves, take away their basic right of privacy and then be bought by Qatar. Yet they keep simping for this totalitarian group.
Mohawk-Chicken on
We must respect their privacy.
aigars2 on
Guessing the participants being from different coutries are somehow tied to another entity and they don’t want you to know which.
deceased_parrot on
Why is no one pushing for an opposite bill? A bill that enshrines our “digital rights and freedoms” and makes pushing for this kind of nonsense (and they’ve been pushing this for a long, long while) much harder, if not impossible?
insomnimax_99 on
People who want to end online privacy refuse to give up their privacy online. Rules for thee but not for me.
zumbaj-agumeja on
Our government just collapsed an hour ago. The PM (“tricky” Dick Schoof) used to be the head of the intelligence agency. Maybe he can have his job back now.
wgszpieg on
It’s shit like this that drives the alt-right surge.
The alt-right will also use these tools to destroy democracy, of course, but for now it’s a great platform for them to score easy victories
Othun on
r/nottheonion
Brilliant_Injury_525 on
Is there any protest organised in Bruxelles? How to organise one?
I have been told MEPs don’t pay much attention to emails received by constituents.
EnergyAltruistic6757 on
Ironic.
Vegetable_Mission892 on
Von der Leyen blacking out parts of documents that are of interest? Some people never change i guess.
ThePyxl on
Have you tried marking the blacked out text?
NoSkillzDad on
Wait, let me get this straight, *they* get privacy while trying to strip us of ours? **Fuck** that. We should be able to access this information one way or another.
blackie-arts on
sooo they get privacy but we don’t? cool
Consistent_Catch9917 on
Considering those people very likely are members of the national intelligence service and or cybercrime units, the censorship is no surprise.
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[When German MEP Patrick Breyer requested the names](https://fragdenstaat.de/anfrage/sub-groups-working-groups-of-the-high-level-expert-group-on-access-to-data-for-effective-law-enforcement/#nachricht-842415) of the individuals involved in the [High-Level Group on Access to Data for Effective Law Enforcement](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306-c364-4154-835b-e986a9a49281_en?filename=Concluding%20Report%20of%20the%20HLG%20on%20access%20to%20data%20for%20effective%20law%20enforcement_en.pdf)
—the group behind the EU’s latest mass surveillance proposal—the EU Commission responded with a document where all names were blacked out. According to digital rights group EDRi:
[“The HLG has kept its work sessions closed, strictly controlled which stakeholders got invited, and effectively shut down civil society participation.”](https://edri.org/our-work/high-level-group-going-dark-outcome-a-mission-failure/)
Their plan includes restrictions on encryption, surveillance mandates, sanctioning messaging apps and more. By the way Chat Control isn’t dead and is also being pushed in such a secrecy [EU ombudsman has concluded it maladministration.](https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/07/18/european-ombudsman-slams-commission-for-secretive-approach-to-child-sexual-abuse-law). Chat Control would, in addition to also banning secure encryption, force people [to register on social media with their own identities](https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/). Good thing there isn’t an EU-wide digital identity incoming, right?
Despite this secrecy and the dystopian proposal itself, the group’s recommendations are now being used as a primary source for the [EU Commission’s “ProtectEU” strategy for 2029](https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:52025DC0148). On top of those proposals the commission wants to make Europol the ”FBI or Europe”, while Europol’s boss says [Big Tech has ‘responsibility’ to unlock encrypted messages to protect democracy](https://www.ft.com/content/1e6a600d-8620-4ed6-a4cd-5c454d6247ba). The same Europol that [has been criticized by EU ombudsman for their ties with a chat control tech service provider Thorn](https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-eu-ombudsman-criticises-revolving-door-between-europol-and-chat-control-tech-lobbyist-thorn/)
Anyway since every paragraph halves the amount of people making it to the end, here’s what you can do
[Contact your MEP](https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/home)
Give EU your feedback on their [new GDPR destroying data retention proposal](https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/14680-Impact-assessment-on-retention-of-data-by-service-providers-for-criminal-proceedings-/feedback_en?p_id=57023308)
And spread the news, on social media and in real life.
I want to know, which portuguese MP´s are behind this, and what do they have to say about it 🙂
They get privacy. How ironic.
That’s surely a sign that we can trust them!
But North Korea….BAD!
Looool
It’s amazing how the EU is both building the privacy walls and demolishing them at the same time. I thought we were supposed to have common values. Apparently, the citizens understand, as we keep protesting this fucking proposal. Yet leadership keeps proposing it.
It’s beyond satire. Blanked out list of people opposing other people’s privacy 😐
The unknown oligarchy will protect the working mans interests! What could go wrong trusting a unknown cabal?
Then we should make some educated guesses. Regarding Germany: There are parts of some parties (especially the CDU/CSU) that historically tended to push into this direction. Therefore I highly suspect leading CDU/CSU EU Politicians. Which parties/persons do you guys suspect?
Ironic
I wonder why EU is willingly becoming same as China
How ironic!
Can someone explain to me how this differs from the US patriot act?
I am very much against this, but I wish to understand how it compares to the patriot act that has beeen in effect in the us since 2001. Does this go further than that?
Based EU amirite? Remember USB cables?
Privacy for me but not for thee. Quite obvious that they know they wouldnt be safe if their names were out there, because clearly, it would be a VERY unpopular proposal amongst the general plebs. And rightly so.
Yes because Europe reallyyyyy needs a PATRIOT Act-esque law,right? Just look at how well it performed in the States the total control of everyone’s privacy
Hopefully some whistleblower leaks these
Oh but I thought EU is wonderful and we’d go to shit without them?
It’s not the first time they’re pulling bullshit like this.
Isnt it quite a problem regarding corruption when state level actors impede transparency purposefully?
Why are they the one to get to keep their privacy ?
Well, turning europe into a 1984 dystopia seems like a dream to them.
The problem is that europeans keep voting for them (same here in Portugal).
Ventura, Le Pen, Kickl thrive in the hate bait, false arguments, and the moderate parties are incompetently adressing the subjects. Their leaders lack charisma, leadership and plausible solutions, making things worse for everyone instead of proving them wrong by acting competently.
Where did this come from? I thought the EU was all about *protecting* privacy.
I’d like to actually speak to my MEP but fuck me because apparently the people voting against privacy get themselves the privacy to not be held accountable.
This is one of the few topic I’m good with it being repeted even every day. Everyone must know
I love how easily swayed europhiles are. Give people a few token handwaves, take away their basic right of privacy and then be bought by Qatar. Yet they keep simping for this totalitarian group.
We must respect their privacy.
Guessing the participants being from different coutries are somehow tied to another entity and they don’t want you to know which.
Why is no one pushing for an opposite bill? A bill that enshrines our “digital rights and freedoms” and makes pushing for this kind of nonsense (and they’ve been pushing this for a long, long while) much harder, if not impossible?
People who want to end online privacy refuse to give up their privacy online. Rules for thee but not for me.
Our government just collapsed an hour ago. The PM (“tricky” Dick Schoof) used to be the head of the intelligence agency. Maybe he can have his job back now.
It’s shit like this that drives the alt-right surge.
The alt-right will also use these tools to destroy democracy, of course, but for now it’s a great platform for them to score easy victories
r/nottheonion
Is there any protest organised in Bruxelles? How to organise one?
I have been told MEPs don’t pay much attention to emails received by constituents.
Ironic.
Von der Leyen blacking out parts of documents that are of interest? Some people never change i guess.
Have you tried marking the blacked out text?
Wait, let me get this straight, *they* get privacy while trying to strip us of ours? **Fuck** that. We should be able to access this information one way or another.
sooo they get privacy but we don’t? cool
Considering those people very likely are members of the national intelligence service and or cybercrime units, the censorship is no surprise.