Anni savoli militari per adolescenti e lezioni di scuola in difesa per preparare il Regno Unito alla guerra
Military gap years for teens and school lessons on defence to prepare UK for war
di ThatchersDirtyTaint
Anni savoli militari per adolescenti e lezioni di scuola in difesa per preparare il Regno Unito alla guerra
Military gap years for teens and school lessons on defence to prepare UK for war
di ThatchersDirtyTaint
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A war that I’m 100% confident the UK, US or Israel will start.
Can I get the gist on this from someone? I can’t see the linked article.
They have just totally given up. They’re not even trying to sort out defence numbers. It says
> The regular armed forces, which have been “hollowed out”, will be increased by 20 per cent “when funding allows”, according to the review.
Numbers have been falling for a long time, previously it was because we deliberately cut them. But now it’s just because we can’t get any one to stay. And their best idea is some gap year students? We’re screwed.
Btw guys this is like the last ditch attempt at trying to get people to join after this it’s conscription, our military as it is is pathetic in regard to retention and recruitment.
Why send our youth when he have a trove of MP’s gagging at the bit for a fight?
Find it hilarious they want people to join the military in a time when they’ve been stripping reasons to ever want to fight for your country.
Starting off census’ state that 1 in 6/7 or 10-11mill people in the UK weren’t born here. Theres a generation of children born to them families that see themselves not only as british but also another country.
You then have an entire generation that has been bent over backwards and dry fucked by the system, its pushed education fee’s up, made getting jobs harder, houses harder, bills higher, rent higher, its slagged them off as lazy, and talked down about them for years.
Nationalism imo has been slowly and quietly stripped, i feel like its fearful to fly the flag of this country when in this country, which is absolutely insane to me.
They’ve pushed a more global approach to lifestyles, to opinions and opened our eyes to a wider world. With the access to the internet, people can and have assimilated to other cultures and ways of living. They dont want to fight each other. Especially for wars that a lot of people feel aren’t their fight. (Obviously this isnt a bad thing but throws up its own issues when war is brought to the table).
There is some real disdain in society towards the way people are treated. From a subjective basis, many of my friends and those i work with, born here or not, state they’d rather rot in prison than fight for this country. If the country wants people to fight for it, they need to give the country and its people something to be proud of and fight for.
Finally, people have seen the history, the middle eastern wars in our lifetime, they’ve had friends, family die in a war that a lot of people feel we shouldn’t have continued or even been involved in.
It doesnt surprise me they want to teach this in school, its not about this generation, its about brainwashing the next to feel like they have to.
Well if they want to foster an interest in the military (or other uniformed services, Police, Fire Etc) then they could re-invest in the Cadets (Air, Army, Navy & CCF) and work to promote them more. The last 14 odd years the cadets have had their money and resources stripped away as well as making staffing a unit a bureaucratic and paperwork nightmare for the volunteers, effectively making it a second job (unpaid).
Support what exists and work rather than trying to make up something new.
Wait, wasn’t this the same thing the Tories were pushing for but under National Service.
OP, your username is an absolute classic. Sounds like something out of Cards Against Humanity.
The fact that there’s currently homeless British veterans, discarded by their country and now sleeping on the streets, whilst at the same time illegal 3rd world migrants sleep in 3 and 4 star hotels with food, internet, pocket money and more all provided for free ongoing for months and years, should be enough for any sane young Brit to give the government the middle finger and refuse to do any sort of military service.
Everyone should be required to do 1 year military service. Hopefully not for the purpose of war, but to prevent us further devolving as a society.
Will they still be filtering out those “useless white males” so they can fast-track women and ethnic minorities to the front line like the air force did a few years ago?
Hey kids , why don’t you consider dying for a country that offers you nothing! Don’t worry, when your service is done you can live on the street for free, and we won’t even charge you for the ptsd you will have from blowing up brown people in far away places who simply want us to leave them alone! Just think of the stories you will be able to tell of fear, and wounds, and death, and sleep soundly know YOU did something for profits for arms manufacturers across the west!
Who are we fighting and why? Call me crazy, but I don’t have a problem with the average civilian in any country. If Keir Startmer wants a war, why doesn’t he show up on the front line?
>Schoolchildren will be taught about careers in the military and other defence issues to prepare the UK for a future war.
>And school-leavers will also be offered the chance to experience military life by joining the Armed Forces during a paid gap year before they go to university.
Honestly sounds quite reasonable. Nobody is being forced to do anything, it’s a glorified recruitment drive.
Oddly it seems like a good idea to me. Clearly most disagree but getting very useful military training for a year, save the money for uni or vocational training a year later. Some may go on and have careers in the military too. Win win win.
If this doesn’t work maybe they should do an American thing like paying for technical college tuition if you do two years of military service and remain in the reserve forces after.
Surely it beats working at Morrisons or JD Sports
I can’t imagine fighting and dying for a government that doesn’t care about you is going to be high up on teens to do lists.
How about instead of preparing for war they stop inviting it. NATO on Russian borders was always going to result in war when NATO includes Germany. Russia have resentment against Germany and I don’t blame them. This is existential for them.
I’m Australian, this just came up on my feed. We have the same head of state though so felt myself entitled to comment on this, an international issue.
Our prisons are too full, get the prisoners into penal battalions instead. Anyone who’s posted a meme which is offensive or committed a non crime hate incident gets sent straight to suicide missions on front lines.
The UK isn’t a country worth defending. Fix that then wonder why nobody is enlisting.
No wonder they’re cutting disability benefits, they know they’re gonna have a lot of fucked up kids in a few years.
You’re gonna come back to this country, broken in body and soul. Knowing full well there’s nothing worth fighting for only for it to be much worse. First thing these fuckers are gonna do is offer you “euthanisation!”.
Very cool.
Why would I want to defend this country? 10 years ago, sure, now, it’s not ours
Yes, I can imagine all the teenagers signing up in droves to die for a country which hates them.
They slag them off in the paper every week, plus no jobs, no prospects, houses are 500k for a house the boomer paid 16K for.
… have a good time? How dare they?!!? clubbing is scandalously expensive, pubs are all closing and they even get slagged off for staying at home and playing video games.
All the adhd and autism diagnosis I can’t see any teens being eligible, but I guess that would be the point. Plus, who wants to fight for modern day UK?
Nationalism has been treated as, not only taboo but, practically a crime and literally a crime in a lot of instances for most of my life now and I’m almost too old to be conscripted.
What exactly are people being convinced to go and fight, and possibly die, for if it’s isn’t nationalism?
Neoliberalism has sucked community spirit and sacrifice from the United Kingdom, and they expect that people will fight for their country? We’ll be complaining about too many boat-fulls of people leaving within a few weeks of conscription.
Why would anyone want to fight for a government that is actively hostile to the native population 🤣
war with who? Russia? China? These are your enemies, not mine. I do not care
Our country locks people up for posting memes online.
We’re importing 2million people per year, to drive down wages and increase GDP by 0.03%. Standards of living are only decreasing in real terms.
Who would want to give their lives for that?
Certainly not me.
I’ve seen the army numbers and the naval numbers, it’s appalling that the UK is the most hard line on Russia despite its military being in such a poor state. Honestly it can’t even field its two carriers at the same time and probably couldn’t field two divisions even with the marines attached to the army
New proposal, Draft starts with people who own the most assets in the UK, they have more to lose. And then work down the list, got 18 billion and don’t want to fight? cool donate it to the war effort, and put yourself lower on the draft list.
The social contract is broken. And they think people are going to fight for something? The vast majority of people can never afford to own their own home, not are they going to afford any kind of luxury. We have children living in poverty. We have elderly freezing in the winter? We have a record unemployment rate. We have children going to school hungry because families cannot afford 3 meals a day. People are putting off having a family because they can’t afford a home of their own. Rent is sky high. Need I even go on? This country has squeezed every last penny out of it’s people and given them nothing. And they want them to fight for it? What a joke.
The simple fact is any large scale peer on peer conflict can’t survive on volunteers. It will need a conscription/draft to hike up the numbers. Afaik British forces prior to both world wars were pretty good but the regulars very quickly got rendered ineffective due to casualties and scale of deployments.
I guess the nuke should have put an end to the need for large scale industrial warfare. Or so we thought.
Dangerous times ahead, people need to understand our way of life isn’t an automatic universal given and it can be taken away by both internal and external threats. When the time comes will people even stand up for themselves?
Ah yes because the last time they made teens sign up for the military they wiped out whole villages.
“military gap year”?
Is that code for desert tours with a fitness focus?
I bet we paid a marking firm a fortune to come up with the idea of a “military gap year” as opposed to what this really is: extremely hard work on a temporary contract.
Paid gap years are already a thing, nothing new really. The SDR is a load a waffle, no real commitment and will be out of date within the year