Numero record di russi sostengono i colloqui di pace, fine della guerra in Ucraina, mostra i sondaggi

    https://kyivindependent.com/record-number-of-russians-support-peace-talks-end-war-in-ukraine-since-february-2022-poll-shows/

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    1. Hades_adhbik on

      This conflict isn’t over yet, but I have always said for a long time, the goal isn’t total military victory over every last russian, the goal is to psychically break the war. Break the coercion they have to wage the war. This latest move may be that meniscus break that begins it. The start of the collapse of their command.

      It’s unclear how the chain of command breaks down and what their military does, but it’s clear that they are not going to get more volunteers, they’re going to find it difficult to get more soldiers and more resources for the war.

      I predict that the war has a year at most left. The russia heads won’t have the support to continue it. The military will have collapsed and Ukraine forces will be in moscow within a year. The main things we need to do when that happens is to secure the nukes. Move them out of russia, maybe some in ukraine the rest in NATO countries, moved to france, germany, any one of these countries. We can’t let them stay there in stateless russia.

      They could be taken by people that should not have them. Russia’s nukes could end up in Iran or some other country, could be taken by ISIS, could be taken by some other gang,

      so our number one priority if the russian state collapses if their military surrenders is to take the nuclear arms, and then force them to demilitarize, shrink their army, just enough to maintain internal security.

      Try to have some sort of convention where they have to create a constitutional system, move towards having rights and chosen leaders.

    2. Stiller_Winter on

      What polls? No any polls are possible in a slaughterhouse.

    3. Jindujun on

      Doubt it. The majority still thinks that they are in the right which means they wont accept anything other than a heavily Russian skewed peace treaty.

      There is no point in trying for peace with someone that holds that the only “peace” is unconditional surrender. Like Ukraine has sad many times, a peace without security guarantees is not a peace.

      For starters Ukraine needs a guarantee that this wont happen again in a few years.

    4. JohnnyElRed on

      Ordinary Russians were always on favor of ending the war. What they don’t want, is to end it in a way that might make them come out looking as if they have lost.

    5. No_Priors on

      And Russia being a democracy that’s exactly what will happen . . .

      * /S

    6. Ok-Appointment-9802 on

      One must understand that the Russian idea of “peace” is a Ukrainian surrender in which Ukraine is left with no security guarantees whatsoever, has to formerly cede five of its oblasts to Russia (including territory it currently holds) and let Moscow dictate it’s foreign policy as well as restrict the size of its army. There is no scenario in which Russia voluntarily leaves the future of Ukraine up to Ukrainians.

    7. MaestroGena on

      Press X… I’d say they’re more eager to retaliate now, Russians are happy when someone else is suffering than themselves

    8. Shodan469 on

      Shame the opinions of the Russian people matter little compared to Putin’s delusional and megalomaniacal desires.

    9. PlasticComb7287 on

      The title is misleading. By analogy, one could write that 100% of Ukrainians want peace (after the burning of Moscow).

    10. Must be fake or innacurate, in no way russian people want peace, they literally drown in propaganda.

    11. AK49Logger on

      Sounds like a number of Russians have PTSD and SED going on…they are addicted to chaos…because they only know where they have been…or in some cases…where others put them…
      They need to stop giving their power away…and take back their country… afterwards they can contact the UN and ICC for help…
      The level of global corruption needs to be knee capped…now…

    12. VillagePatrick on

      Nope, when Russians start to support peace talks is exactly the moment this needs to keep going. Let their peace of mind crumble and let their country suffer as they’ve made Ukraine suffer. No justice, no peace.

    13. Manealendil on

      They probably mean the ridiculous demands that Russia is currently making.

      And when they get inevitably denied they will go, whoops, we tried and use that as justification for more shenanigans

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