Yeah that’s going to go to a legal challenge, and/or make recruiting new staff impossible.
The pension is the whole reason why people are willing to accept lower pay for working in local government.
sadelnotsaddle on
Guessing they want a council workers strike for some reason.
LeadingCheetah2990 on
So, after the tax raid in the 90s the only people who get final salary pension are government officials. Yet they don’t even do it properly and correctly fund the pension scheme and just fund it from their yearly budget? Seems fair
MordecaiTheBrown on
Yeah, Reform is making the UK great again, back in the days of the poor houses and no health care, where we ruled the world 🙂
AbbreviationsFar800 on
But farage gets his EU pension for doing literally F all
mpanase on
As long as it’s at council level… let them cook. Let them bring the council to their knees.
People need to know that their vote matters.
AlexRodgerzzz on
How can anyone other than the already rich seriously believe these crooks are in any way good for society? I know the answer of course, but it staggers me that people can’t see beyond that.
Of course they won’t be waiving their pension for being MP’s, far too much too ask for.
NuPNua on
None of this works this way, this stuff is decided at a national level across all councils via union negotiations and agreements. Reform seem to think they have a lot more authority than they actually do at these local authorities.
Wgh555 on
So they won’t allow new staff to join the local government pension scheme and they’re going to give lower pay rises to those already in it? What the actual fuck.
Excession3105 on
Ah yes, from Nigel “man of the people” Farage. What a cupid stunt.
Soppydogg on
I am sure this story will be spun mercilessly on GB News as the Unions trying to bring local councils to its knees while Tice bangs on about DOGE II
The bit that bothers me will be the willingness of the average Reform supporter to swallow it without any further discussion.
It really is getting like Animal Farm
DonnieLovesBowling on
Just more waffle for his low-info base that, when held up to a minimum of scrutiny, betrays their complete lack of knowledge.
Twat.
JayR_97 on
This is going to really hurt recruitment. The good pension is one of the reasons people put up with the lower salaries that come with public sector jobs
UK-sHaDoW on
This is about making it impossible to recruit to shrink the government.
evolveandprosper on
It’s just Tice trying to generate headlines. There isn’t the remotest chance of them actually being able to do this. There are countless legal and practical obstacles. It would waste hundreds of thousands of pounds of public money in legal fees and waste innumerable hours of work flogging a dead horse – all for nothing. Meanwhile, industrial action would paralyse council departments. Tice is just playing at being a pound-shop Elon Musk – and Musk is already deeply regretting getting involved in Trump’s DOGE!
setokaiba22 on
I assumed people voted Reform into their local councillors because they (the people) weee running on platforms to change things at the local level.
So far I’ve seen nothing but resignations and attempts at national politics or decisions – like this one which they’d be met with a huge legal challenge and utterly destroyed I imagine.
So what are they actually doing? Seems as soon as Labour came into power every day they’ve been pulled apart for not doing things (despite doing heck of a lot) – why is the same not being applied at a local level to this bunch of idiots?
concretepigeon on
Reform are going to promise massive savings then bankrupt their councils from legal fees from repeatedly trying to do things they have no legal authority to do. Their voters will blame Labour.
Cornwallian68 on
An actual bunch of morons. Trying this DOGE nonsense here is going to fail spectacularly.
Turbo_Heel on
Farage et al fanboying some of the worst people going really tells you everything you need to know. This isn’t America, you dozy arse holes. As other people have said, this will likely just end up as a pointless, money/time wasting back and forth where in the end, nothing happens. The unions won’t allow it, the courts probably won’t either. I work for LA and believe me, if this happened to us, the fightback/anger would off the charts.
djpolofish on
Oh look Mr (crypto bribes accepted) frog man is a real hero of the people, just copy Trump.
I love how we just come out of 14 years of destruction and the grifters supporters are saying “we want more of that, but worse”.
Reform UK, a party of millionaires made for billionaires.
SC_W33DKILL3R on
Just like in America, if these idiots ever got in power they would take away all power councils have.
They need to be fought at every step, they need to be audited, they need to be watched.
BronnOP on
They won’t be able to do this, but in a hypothetical world where they did: say goodbye to all your public servants.
The pension is the only thing that justifies being anywhere from £5K-£20K behind the private sector in terms of wages.
We’re looking at a 3% wage rise this year *if we are lucky* and inflation is roughly 3% so in real terms we’re getting nothing or even a pay cut.
Reverend_Vader on
I have 22 years of a local gov pension (private sector now)
From what I know the scheme runs a profit (GMPF)
I also know pretty much every person still there I speak to, is only there for the pension
Get rid of it and you’ll need AI to run them as there will be nobody else left
I have freinds ranging from binmen to directors during my time there, all have the same mindset
Fucking reform man, these idiots really are something else , the people I know can’t recruit now with the pay and conditions, my old section just had 7 rounds of interviews over 3 years for new staff
They got zero applicants other than Nigerian grads after visas
Lol
ShortNefariousness2 on
The excellent pensions in local government and the civil service were nerfed years ago. The vast majority of folk on the final salary pensions are already retired.
loonongrass on
Their supporters are completely unhinged when it comes to public sector workers. I’ve ended up arguing on here with Reform supporters who believe that public sector workers shouldn’t have the right to vote.
BiggestNizzy on
Why stop at local government? Why not national government? The CEO or reform currently claims an EU pension. Maybe he should follow by example and donate that to charity. He can always make money grifting on cameo and supporting the IRA.
MrSierra125 on
Farage knows he has no hope of doing this. He just says this to get attention
Loreki on
Time to apply for jobs at the next council over the boundary folks. There’s no point striking or fighting this. Reform will only take strike action as confirmation that they are correct.
pajamakitten on
Sadly, most people do not read beyond headlines, even fewer past the first paragraph. Reform voters will see those and loudly agree this is a good idea without even thinking for a second if this is possible or a good idea.
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Yeah that’s going to go to a legal challenge, and/or make recruiting new staff impossible.
The pension is the whole reason why people are willing to accept lower pay for working in local government.
Guessing they want a council workers strike for some reason.
So, after the tax raid in the 90s the only people who get final salary pension are government officials. Yet they don’t even do it properly and correctly fund the pension scheme and just fund it from their yearly budget? Seems fair
Yeah, Reform is making the UK great again, back in the days of the poor houses and no health care, where we ruled the world 🙂
But farage gets his EU pension for doing literally F all
As long as it’s at council level… let them cook. Let them bring the council to their knees.
People need to know that their vote matters.
How can anyone other than the already rich seriously believe these crooks are in any way good for society? I know the answer of course, but it staggers me that people can’t see beyond that.
Of course they won’t be waiving their pension for being MP’s, far too much too ask for.
None of this works this way, this stuff is decided at a national level across all councils via union negotiations and agreements. Reform seem to think they have a lot more authority than they actually do at these local authorities.
So they won’t allow new staff to join the local government pension scheme and they’re going to give lower pay rises to those already in it? What the actual fuck.
Ah yes, from Nigel “man of the people” Farage. What a cupid stunt.
I am sure this story will be spun mercilessly on GB News as the Unions trying to bring local councils to its knees while Tice bangs on about DOGE II
The bit that bothers me will be the willingness of the average Reform supporter to swallow it without any further discussion.
It really is getting like Animal Farm
Just more waffle for his low-info base that, when held up to a minimum of scrutiny, betrays their complete lack of knowledge.
Twat.
This is going to really hurt recruitment. The good pension is one of the reasons people put up with the lower salaries that come with public sector jobs
This is about making it impossible to recruit to shrink the government.
It’s just Tice trying to generate headlines. There isn’t the remotest chance of them actually being able to do this. There are countless legal and practical obstacles. It would waste hundreds of thousands of pounds of public money in legal fees and waste innumerable hours of work flogging a dead horse – all for nothing. Meanwhile, industrial action would paralyse council departments. Tice is just playing at being a pound-shop Elon Musk – and Musk is already deeply regretting getting involved in Trump’s DOGE!
I assumed people voted Reform into their local councillors because they (the people) weee running on platforms to change things at the local level.
So far I’ve seen nothing but resignations and attempts at national politics or decisions – like this one which they’d be met with a huge legal challenge and utterly destroyed I imagine.
So what are they actually doing? Seems as soon as Labour came into power every day they’ve been pulled apart for not doing things (despite doing heck of a lot) – why is the same not being applied at a local level to this bunch of idiots?
Reform are going to promise massive savings then bankrupt their councils from legal fees from repeatedly trying to do things they have no legal authority to do. Their voters will blame Labour.
An actual bunch of morons. Trying this DOGE nonsense here is going to fail spectacularly.
Farage et al fanboying some of the worst people going really tells you everything you need to know. This isn’t America, you dozy arse holes. As other people have said, this will likely just end up as a pointless, money/time wasting back and forth where in the end, nothing happens. The unions won’t allow it, the courts probably won’t either. I work for LA and believe me, if this happened to us, the fightback/anger would off the charts.
Oh look Mr (crypto bribes accepted) frog man is a real hero of the people, just copy Trump.
I love how we just come out of 14 years of destruction and the grifters supporters are saying “we want more of that, but worse”.
Reform UK, a party of millionaires made for billionaires.
Just like in America, if these idiots ever got in power they would take away all power councils have.
They need to be fought at every step, they need to be audited, they need to be watched.
They won’t be able to do this, but in a hypothetical world where they did: say goodbye to all your public servants.
The pension is the only thing that justifies being anywhere from £5K-£20K behind the private sector in terms of wages.
We’re looking at a 3% wage rise this year *if we are lucky* and inflation is roughly 3% so in real terms we’re getting nothing or even a pay cut.
I have 22 years of a local gov pension (private sector now)
From what I know the scheme runs a profit (GMPF)
I also know pretty much every person still there I speak to, is only there for the pension
Get rid of it and you’ll need AI to run them as there will be nobody else left
I have freinds ranging from binmen to directors during my time there, all have the same mindset
Fucking reform man, these idiots really are something else , the people I know can’t recruit now with the pay and conditions, my old section just had 7 rounds of interviews over 3 years for new staff
They got zero applicants other than Nigerian grads after visas
Lol
The excellent pensions in local government and the civil service were nerfed years ago. The vast majority of folk on the final salary pensions are already retired.
Their supporters are completely unhinged when it comes to public sector workers. I’ve ended up arguing on here with Reform supporters who believe that public sector workers shouldn’t have the right to vote.
Why stop at local government? Why not national government? The CEO or reform currently claims an EU pension. Maybe he should follow by example and donate that to charity. He can always make money grifting on cameo and supporting the IRA.
Farage knows he has no hope of doing this. He just says this to get attention
Time to apply for jobs at the next council over the boundary folks. There’s no point striking or fighting this. Reform will only take strike action as confirmation that they are correct.
Sadly, most people do not read beyond headlines, even fewer past the first paragraph. Reform voters will see those and loudly agree this is a good idea without even thinking for a second if this is possible or a good idea.