Bhim Kohli: ragazzo e ragazza condannati per aver ucciso Dog Walker, 80 anni
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxy2npz7d5o
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Bhim Kohli: ragazzo e ragazza condannati per aver ucciso Dog Walker, 80 anni
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxy2npz7d5o
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Detention orders for straight up killing an 80 year old man. Country has genuinely gone.
> The boy, who racially abused Mr Kohli before slapping him in the face with a slider shoe, was sentenced to seven years in custody at Leicester Crown Court on Thursday.
> The girl, who encouraged the assault and laughed as she filmed it on her phone, was given a youth rehabilitation order of three years and made subject to a six-month curfew. Both were convicted of manslaughter.
>> “The judge continues telling D2 (the girl) that a custodial sentence would have an impact on her education.”
We have one of the weakest justice systems in the world.
Not even 10 year sentence between them for a racist murder of an innocent defenceless elderly man out walking his dog. What the fuck.
These leniency of these sentences is absolutely shocking. He’ll be out when he’s 20 and she won’t face a single day in custody. What kind of message is this sending to other would be teenage murderers? Something needs to change with our woeful sentencing system.
7 years for murdering an old man with ‘mitigating features’.
‘But there are mitigating features, he says, including no previous convictions. He had also behaved more positively recently at the children’s home.’
The boy will serve probably serve half of that. I don’t know who I’ll have to petition to but that’s entirely unacceptable.
It’s time we stopped handling children guilty of serious crimes like this with kid gloves. They knew exactly what they were doing. And we need to start naming them, too.
Yikes, these judges are all crazy when it comes to children. Who cares if it may impact her education if she was involved in something like this?
It’s crazy man, no worries even cops are afraid of dealing with youth these days.
What an absolute joke of a sentencing.
And the judge said it wasn’t racially motivated or whatever even though he was racially abused and targeted again and again…
When children do terrible things, we have a choice. We can destroy them or we can do our best to change them into functioning adults who can contribute positively to society.
On the face of it, these sentences look pitifully lenient, but the alternative – twenty years or so in jail? – effectively institutionalises the child who will then never be a productive adult. And we will pay for their upkeep for sixty years or more.
So, what do we want our penal system to do to children who commit very serious offences? Do we want retribution and punishment, or do we want to turn the damaged child into an adult who can function in society.
My heart says lock them up and throw the key away. My head says “Hang on a minute…”
A racially motivated killing leads to probably 3yrs in prison for the killer and no prison time at all for the person that encouraged and filmed it.
I’m not one for “lock em up and throw away the key” generally but that is a fucking insult to his memory and his family.
The “prison is for rehabilitation and long sentences don’t work as a deterrent” lot are awfully quiet.
I doubt that these children will ever contribute to society in any meaningful way. If they’re killing an old man while racially abusing him at this age then they’re a lost cause and to hell with them. Some people will never be anything but detrimental to society and I suspect these two fit into that category. The idea that everyone is redeemable and/or deserves redemption is very naive imo.
Can this be appealed? This is an absolute insult to the victim and his family. As though they haven’t suffered enough. It’s laughable that the judge is concerned about her education. Actions should have consequences. Don’t commit a crime if you can’t deal with them. At least they had a choice unlike Bhim Kohli. And to decide that it wasn’t racially motivated when they racially abused him is equally insane.
It’s not just the lenient sentence, but those two children are psychopaths – a frail old man was beaten, mocked, then murdered. No amount of rehabilitation will give them empathy.
They deserve a longer sentence as a deterrent, at the very least, with education/rehabilitation happening concurrently so they are prepared for life in the outside world.
But this? It’s an insult to the victim and society. They are murderers FFS.
Anyone can write to the attorney general if they believe the sentence is unduly lenient. I can’t see it working in this case though, tbh, given the ages at the time and the fact that they weren’t found guilty of murder.
This boy will come out of prison and continue to be a hindrance to society. Guess we’ll find out in 3.5 years when he’s let out early.
As for the girl, if you don’t receive any punishment, how will you know you’ve done wrong? She’ll be laughing about it with friends in a matter of days.
Very lenient sentences, but there is far more choice in terms of sentencing with manslaughter. If this had been murder, then the judge would have no choice other than a life sentence with a minimum term
Another example of ferral kids bought up on a diet of online shite that moulds them.
That said, they are children, and I would wager that for one or both of them, the period they have spent under the control of the authorities prior to the trial has been the most stable and nurturing they have ever experienced.
At the same time, the family must be very angry and I don’t blame them one bit.
Why does the story not talk more about what they did to him? Racially abusing someone and slapping them with a shoe does not lead to a snapped spine or the other injuries this poor man suffered. Why can’t they lay out exactly what these little shits did?
This is the kind of shit the population should be livid about.
The “small boats” don’t mean anything if we can’t even keep our own population under control.
Remember, sentencing guidelines are set by parliament, not the judges.
This must be the two tier Keir thing I keep reading about.
Don’t know why murder couldn’t be proved – ‘intention to kill or commit GBH’.
Even then however the James Bulger killers were paroled after just 8 years.
The 15 year old probably being free to get on with his life before he’s 21 just doesn’t sit well at all.
I suppose there’s two opposing arguments for the rehabilitation of juveniles who commit horrendous crimes – as they’re young they have the potential to change completely however you could quite easily argue that if they can do something like that at 15 then it really doesn’t bode well as issues are more fundamental.
Interesting how one of the James Bulger killers went around in a cycle of crime after initial release and one we’ve never heard about again. Maybe the two above arguments.
>Before passing sentence, Mr Justice Turner told the boy he did not find he attacked Mr Kohli due to his race, even though the court heard he used racist language.
This is the environment in Britain – disgraceful judge.
What a disgustingly short sentence for a violent attack.