New UK AI DataCentre potrebbe causare cinque volte le emissioni dell’aeroporto di Birmingham
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jun/06/planned-ai-datacentre-in-england-could-cause-five-times-emissions-of-big-airport?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
di topotaul
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We just had do do a carbon awareness day at work (fun) where they were all turn off lights, get a bike, eat less meat blah blah fucking blah and not once was AI mentioned.
These data centres should be built where cheap low carbon power is at hand.
UK has some of the most expensive electricity in the world
You’d need to be a moron to try and place any kind of commercial datacenter here
Yay! Lets say no to another economic sector on spurious environmental grounds.
Then let’s get more clean energy online to power it. We shouldn’t be holding up every new energy dependent industry because our infrastructure is outdated, we should improve the infrastructure.
Nice try, but it’s only the co2 made at the airport, not the whole flight
These units of measurement are confusing.
Can someone tell me how many fridges a Birmingham airport is?
Just what we need, AI slop farms that require huge amounts of energy, compromising our grid for normal consumers.
One of many reasons why this ai crap has to end, now. It’s so fucked up
It’ll also drive unemployment so it’s win win for the owners
Wow.
What’s the emissions stats on the near million people a year (net) we imported?
There is nothing special about this data centre because it focusses on AI. This is just a matter of fact when it comes to any data centre. Between hosting a website that is read by many millions of people each day and the analytics they will be complicit in through their advertising revenue. Then the Guardian itself is likely causing as much emissions as a fair sized airport. The question is whether or not you think the Guardian provides a service that justifies such large emissions.
While the Guardian might occasionally educate me on a topic. Le Chat is helping me work through a Linear Algebra textbook and learn how to solve the problems in it using NumPy and SymPy. I don’t have access to any people who could help me with such things. I don’t have access to instructors solutions manuals. If I’m unsure why something might be the case then I’d be shit out of luck. But now, as somebody from the ass end of nowhere in the UK, gain 24/7 access to a reasonably competent Maths tutor.
For example, yesterday I wasn’t sure about how to answer one of the True or False questions.
[https://chat.mistral.ai/chat/a75fa1e7-c6dc-4e69-b8eb-f9af762fa455](https://chat.mistral.ai/chat/a75fa1e7-c6dc-4e69-b8eb-f9af762fa455)
I saw that you could negate one of the matrices by left-multiplying. But I wasn’t sure where the y was coming from or what I could do with it. Seeing Le Chat write that out made me realise it just meant y in the sense that anything that could be substituted there that would make the equation remain true. Which it must given that we have constrained the equations to the form Ay = Ab.
Or what about the day before that where I was having trouble with a numpy program I’d written to check if I had inverted a matrix correctly and got the correct solution. I had forgotten that numpy.linalg.solve automatically inverts the matrix you give to it, but because I had been using this program earlier to check my working at inverting it then I passed it by mistake. Since I had only used numpy.linalg.solve before I wasn’t aware of numpy.matmul to calculate the product. Le Chat saved me at least quarter of an hour of stumbling around the numpy documentation to realise what I had done wrong.
[https://chat.mistral.ai/chat/0c3f6f59-9f67-4e94-9f23-91e2cb23bab6](https://chat.mistral.ai/chat/0c3f6f59-9f67-4e94-9f23-91e2cb23bab6)
It is a valid criticism that emissions are bad. But I will never use Birmingham airport. Or the next five equivalents. Why aren’t we shutting down Birmingham airport instead?
Every datacentre should be mandated to be built under / next door to a swimming pool.
The pool will cool the datacentre, and the datacentre will heat the pool.