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Sono francese e agli insegnanti qui viene costantemente detto che è normale essere pagati meno delle loro controparti tedesche perché funzionano molto meno. L’articolo di notizie in Francia afferma che gli insegnanti tedeschi trascorrono 28 ore in classe insegnando (che penso sia fuorviante perché mi è stato detto che danno 28 lezioni di 45 minuti) e sono tenuti a rimanere 37 ore nella scuola per l’insegnamento e le altre attività come guardare gli alunni, il lavoro amministrativo, ecc. Dicono anche che gli insegnanti francesi hanno anche molti più giorni di vacanza.

Ma quando guardi le statistiche europee sul tempo trascorso in classe di fronte agli alunni in un anno scolastico, dice:

-Arma elementare: Francia 900h-Germany 691h

-Middle School: Francia 720h-Germany 610h

-Ilsima scuola: Francia 720h-Germany 626h

Quindi non si somma. Gli insegnanti tedeschi possono dare il loro contributo?

https://www.ledeauphine.com/societe/2021/09/13/oui-les-profs-allemands-gagnent-plus-que-les-francais-mais-ils-travaillent-plus

Non capisco perché si sta esaurendo!

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  1. ProfessionalOwl4009 on

    Time in front of class is only a part of their work. You have to prepare, grade exams etc. Maybe take over classes from ill colleagues. Administration can also be part.

  2. emanon_noname on

    > But when you look at European statistics about the time spent in class in front of pupils in a school year it says

    Well “in front of pupils” is only part of the work. So dunno if this is really the best metric to judge this. Plus it can also be misleading, for example if more german teachers do just work part-time (50% or whatever) compared to french teachers

    Edit: apparently 42.3% of the german teachers are just working part time

    https://www.destatis.de/DE/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/2024/01/PD24_N002_21.html

  3. We don’t have to stay in school to do all the other stuff. We can do it wherever we please. I teach 26 lessons per week, which equals about 20 hours, all the other stuff I do at home. Technically this counts as a 40-hours-week, but some weeks I work more hours, some weeks I work less.

  4. quark42q on

    German schools do not have conseillers. The teachers need to do the work that conseillers do, which is a lot of administration. School holidays are 12 weeks a year.

  5. quark42q on

    A question: the hours per year is that the teaching that the students receive per year or what 1 teacher teaches per year in full time?

  6. HHinnerk on

    My husband teaches full-time at a school in Hamburg, and I can tell you: the official 40-hour workweek is more theory than reality.

    Hamburg uses what’s called the Lehrkräftearbeitszeitmodell (teachers’ working time model). It says that full-time teachers work 1,760 hours per year, which breaks down to 40 hours per week on average. That includes about 25.5 hours of actual teaching, and the rest is for grading, prep, parent meetings, school development, admin, etc.

    But here’s the catch: those 40 hours are annualized. That means the city assumes teachers will work much more during school weeks, and then “make up” for it during the holidays when they’re not in class. So in reality, during term time, my husband often works 45–50 hours per week just to stay on top of everything.

    The model looks good on paper, and it helps structure what’s counted as work. But it definitely doesn’t reduce the pressure. And while holidays are nice, they’re not pure free time – there’s often training, planning, or catching up involved.

    So yeah, 40 hours (like for all public servants) officially. But for most teachers in Hamburg, it doesn’t feel like that at all.

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