Iran don’t actually want it but they need to make it look like they’re defending themselves.
shadowrun456 on
Who elects the government? Who works for the elites? The government and the elites aren’t the ones manufacturing the missiles and launching them, the workers and the soldiers are. Stop looking for scapegoats. When it’s something good, then people easily manage to understand that “the workers do all the work, not the elites”, but when it’s something bad, then the workers are suddenly not to be blamed. Textbook hypocrisy.
W_40k on
The fact that a Russian and a Ukrainian are on Reddit comparing how they deal with air strikes shows how fucking stupid this war is. Nobody but the government and the elites want this shit.
Civil_Royal3450 on
Trump was negotiating an agreement and he told Israel not to strike while he was doing it. He’s now trying to claim that he was “aware” of the strike and agreed to it: we all know that’s not true. Israel did this to stymie any potential agreement, and now it’s not ever happening. There is no way, without US assistance, that Israel will be able to destroy Iran’s nuclear capability and I do not see any chance that Trump will join in after being betrayed by Netanyahu.
No-Atmosphere4585 on
I just want to give a reminder to all the geniuses in Europe who support Israel in this war (for example, German, French, and English politicians). This is whats going to happen: Israel destroys all of Iran’s military and key infrastructure, and inthe worst case, the oil and gas facilities, Iran will go into chaos mode (fighting to change the regime, Kurdish seperatists,…) and thanks to this situation, another group of hundreds of thousands of refugees will pour into Europe. They say a wise man doesn’t get f***** from the same hole twice, but your leaders do not seem to have learned their lesson after Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Sudan,…
Silly_Triker on
This is ridiculous. Plenty on the left and right want a war from top to bottom. Not only in Israel and Iran but in the US/UK/France/Germany etc
Compared to Ukraine, there is far less of a division between the mainstream left and right for total unconditional support for Israel. There is also far less
tolerance for those who don’t support Israel because of this.
People don’t realise how deep down this virulent unconditional support for Israel exists in the West. It is a doomsday cult the same as the Islamists. Europe really doesn’t do the extremist “Judeo-Christianity” like the Americans do, but out of fealty to the US it will always have fealty to Israel.
Retiredsoldier98 on
Fragile egos killing the masses since man learned to walk!
NY10 on
I was told that Israel has a nuclear weapon. Why it’s ok for them to have it but not ok for neighboring countries to have it?
MarketingHungry9980 on
We need to stop supporting the Zionist Terrorist Organisation and support Palestine! Besides the Netanyahu regime, nobody wanted this besides the Trump elites. And surely nobody wanted the Nakba! Nobody wanted a genocide besides those Zionists! Nobody wanted Gaza isolated and given to Trump (besides trump and Netanyahu of course)
LubbockGuy95 on
Holy astro turfing batman
RandyHandyBoy on
It seems to me that this war will continue until the missiles run out.
The countries that are between them do not support anti-Palestinian Israel and shiite Iran.
This is the strangest situation.
MightyTheAlmighty on
israel is intentionally repeating the same mistakes of the war on terror where they’re calling for an aggressive campaign to conduct regime change in iran in the name of stopping the development of nukes.
even though iran was more than willing to negotiate with the us about a nuclear deal, israel struck anyway and killed their top diplomats
BHgent on
Meanwhile Iranians are celebrating the death of their tyrants. Israel is in the right side of history.
benNachtheim on
Every single war ever
bunky_done_gun on
Why do I feel like if America was eliminated somehow half the world’s problems would dissolve?
ScheduleFederal869 on
I get why this kind of post resonates. Seeing regular people from opposite sides talk about surviving airstrikes is powerful. But saying “nobody but the elites want this” makes the whole thing sound like a misunderstanding instead of something rooted in real power and oppression.
I’m ambivalent about the conflict overall. I don’t love Israel and think they should be held accountable for Gaza. At the same time, I absolutely despise the Iranian regime. They oppress their own people and send weapons to Russia, which is helping kill Ukrainians. I can’t pretend they’re just victims here.
DocHolidayPhD on
Most wars are exactly this.
fpPolar on
I’m confident Israeli citizens do not want Iran obtaining nukes and want their government to stop Iran from obtaining them.
sapoabilio on
This has nothing to do with Europe. Get this trash out of here. Go discuss this is a geopolitics sub or world news or wherever the hell you want. Israel and Iran are not part of Europe.
Due_Target_4346 on
Israelis don’t care about their government going to war as long as they aren’t getting affected negatively by it. Iranians mostly support this war because it they consider it shameful for them to get bombed by Israel and not retaliate since their government likes to flex their weapons. Also Iranians are just really patriotic.
Total_Wrongdoer_1535 on
Typical fucking soft beta left wing comment.
Israel is EU’s only true ally in the ME. When gulf monarchies collapse and succumb to Islamism, Israel will be the only one left
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Only the Uk/US/Israel/France want this war.
Iran don’t actually want it but they need to make it look like they’re defending themselves.
Who elects the government? Who works for the elites? The government and the elites aren’t the ones manufacturing the missiles and launching them, the workers and the soldiers are. Stop looking for scapegoats. When it’s something good, then people easily manage to understand that “the workers do all the work, not the elites”, but when it’s something bad, then the workers are suddenly not to be blamed. Textbook hypocrisy.
The fact that a Russian and a Ukrainian are on Reddit comparing how they deal with air strikes shows how fucking stupid this war is. Nobody but the government and the elites want this shit.
Trump was negotiating an agreement and he told Israel not to strike while he was doing it. He’s now trying to claim that he was “aware” of the strike and agreed to it: we all know that’s not true. Israel did this to stymie any potential agreement, and now it’s not ever happening. There is no way, without US assistance, that Israel will be able to destroy Iran’s nuclear capability and I do not see any chance that Trump will join in after being betrayed by Netanyahu.
I just want to give a reminder to all the geniuses in Europe who support Israel in this war (for example, German, French, and English politicians). This is whats going to happen: Israel destroys all of Iran’s military and key infrastructure, and inthe worst case, the oil and gas facilities, Iran will go into chaos mode (fighting to change the regime, Kurdish seperatists,…) and thanks to this situation, another group of hundreds of thousands of refugees will pour into Europe. They say a wise man doesn’t get f***** from the same hole twice, but your leaders do not seem to have learned their lesson after Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Sudan,…
This is ridiculous. Plenty on the left and right want a war from top to bottom. Not only in Israel and Iran but in the US/UK/France/Germany etc
Compared to Ukraine, there is far less of a division between the mainstream left and right for total unconditional support for Israel. There is also far less
tolerance for those who don’t support Israel because of this.
People don’t realise how deep down this virulent unconditional support for Israel exists in the West. It is a doomsday cult the same as the Islamists. Europe really doesn’t do the extremist “Judeo-Christianity” like the Americans do, but out of fealty to the US it will always have fealty to Israel.
Fragile egos killing the masses since man learned to walk!
I was told that Israel has a nuclear weapon. Why it’s ok for them to have it but not ok for neighboring countries to have it?
We need to stop supporting the Zionist Terrorist Organisation and support Palestine! Besides the Netanyahu regime, nobody wanted this besides the Trump elites. And surely nobody wanted the Nakba! Nobody wanted a genocide besides those Zionists! Nobody wanted Gaza isolated and given to Trump (besides trump and Netanyahu of course)
Holy astro turfing batman
It seems to me that this war will continue until the missiles run out.
The countries that are between them do not support anti-Palestinian Israel and shiite Iran.
This is the strangest situation.
israel is intentionally repeating the same mistakes of the war on terror where they’re calling for an aggressive campaign to conduct regime change in iran in the name of stopping the development of nukes.
even though iran was more than willing to negotiate with the us about a nuclear deal, israel struck anyway and killed their top diplomats
Meanwhile Iranians are celebrating the death of their tyrants. Israel is in the right side of history.
Every single war ever
Why do I feel like if America was eliminated somehow half the world’s problems would dissolve?
I get why this kind of post resonates. Seeing regular people from opposite sides talk about surviving airstrikes is powerful. But saying “nobody but the elites want this” makes the whole thing sound like a misunderstanding instead of something rooted in real power and oppression.
I’m ambivalent about the conflict overall. I don’t love Israel and think they should be held accountable for Gaza. At the same time, I absolutely despise the Iranian regime. They oppress their own people and send weapons to Russia, which is helping kill Ukrainians. I can’t pretend they’re just victims here.
Most wars are exactly this.
I’m confident Israeli citizens do not want Iran obtaining nukes and want their government to stop Iran from obtaining them.
This has nothing to do with Europe. Get this trash out of here. Go discuss this is a geopolitics sub or world news or wherever the hell you want. Israel and Iran are not part of Europe.
Israelis don’t care about their government going to war as long as they aren’t getting affected negatively by it. Iranians mostly support this war because it they consider it shameful for them to get bombed by Israel and not retaliate since their government likes to flex their weapons. Also Iranians are just really patriotic.
Typical fucking soft beta left wing comment.
Israel is EU’s only true ally in the ME. When gulf monarchies collapse and succumb to Islamism, Israel will be the only one left