Yank religious lobbyists not getting what they want. Lovely.
Current_Pitch8944 on
How does this work? I understand that abortions are legal upto 6 months.
What does this mean?
Girru95 on
Once the foetus can be scientifically determined to feel pain, that should be the cut-off. With exceptions for medical reasons, of course. And make all pregnancy tests free – no excuses then.
Thetonn on
This is a really stupid hill to die on that massively benefits anti-abortion advocates in making far more effective moral and practical cases in exchange for helping practically no-one.
spicy_buns on
I’m so happy about this, fuck getting arrested for what happens inside of my own god damn body.
Ecstatic_Lion4224 on
Seems wise to get rid of any vagueness or opportunity to use outdated legislation against essentially desperate women in future if we’re under any threat from a Russia/US paid government in a few years.
And as I don’t think this will register as news for most people, a good reminder that Britain is a very different country from those lunatics across the Atlantic who keep sending us their best bots and trolls.
einwachmann on
Completely disgusting. First they legalise killing the sick and elderly with euthanasia laws, now they’re legalising killing full grown babies. This country deserves to go to shit if these are the kind of laws that govern it.
Anony_mouse202 on
So we’ve now gone completely to the other extreme and legalised abortion right up until birth.
steepleton on
Abortion is never great, no one goes into it without deep emotional struggles, it should not be a criminal offence to police your own body
Nah, I’m as pro abortion as they come and this is a bad thing.
Surely, at some point, the foetus is able to survive on its own, and therefore has a reasonable right to life, and indeed care by it’s providers? How can a mother take planned, deliberate actions to end her foetus’ life and garner sympathy, but do the same thing potentially 24 hours later and be a heinous baby murderer? Also, what about the rights of the father – in an instance at, say 8 months, where many babies are born naturally anyways, and the mother chooses to end the foetus’ life, does the father have no rights, no choice, no ability to have justice for a life that may be snatched away from him mere days/weeks from it all?
I get that current abortion laws are outdated and needs reworking. Have the argument for when a foetus can be reasonably considered alive, have the argument about medical complications, or DV or whatever – I’m no doctor and don’t really have an educated view on the matter. But to assume all late stage terminations are where the mother is a victim is nuts. Otherwise we should apply that same rationale to other crimes as well.
As usual, women are somehow described as the victims in their own criminal actions. The woman who was on trial last year deliberately chose to investigate late stage abortion. She deliberately misled medical personnel because she knew it was wrong. If the intent of a thing is bad and it is a bad action…when does it count as a crime?
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Yank religious lobbyists not getting what they want. Lovely.
How does this work? I understand that abortions are legal upto 6 months.
What does this mean?
Once the foetus can be scientifically determined to feel pain, that should be the cut-off. With exceptions for medical reasons, of course. And make all pregnancy tests free – no excuses then.
This is a really stupid hill to die on that massively benefits anti-abortion advocates in making far more effective moral and practical cases in exchange for helping practically no-one.
I’m so happy about this, fuck getting arrested for what happens inside of my own god damn body.
Seems wise to get rid of any vagueness or opportunity to use outdated legislation against essentially desperate women in future if we’re under any threat from a Russia/US paid government in a few years.
And as I don’t think this will register as news for most people, a good reminder that Britain is a very different country from those lunatics across the Atlantic who keep sending us their best bots and trolls.
Completely disgusting. First they legalise killing the sick and elderly with euthanasia laws, now they’re legalising killing full grown babies. This country deserves to go to shit if these are the kind of laws that govern it.
So we’ve now gone completely to the other extreme and legalised abortion right up until birth.
Abortion is never great, no one goes into it without deep emotional struggles, it should not be a criminal offence to police your own body
[Votes by MPs here](https://votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/2058)
Nah, I’m as pro abortion as they come and this is a bad thing.
Surely, at some point, the foetus is able to survive on its own, and therefore has a reasonable right to life, and indeed care by it’s providers? How can a mother take planned, deliberate actions to end her foetus’ life and garner sympathy, but do the same thing potentially 24 hours later and be a heinous baby murderer? Also, what about the rights of the father – in an instance at, say 8 months, where many babies are born naturally anyways, and the mother chooses to end the foetus’ life, does the father have no rights, no choice, no ability to have justice for a life that may be snatched away from him mere days/weeks from it all?
I get that current abortion laws are outdated and needs reworking. Have the argument for when a foetus can be reasonably considered alive, have the argument about medical complications, or DV or whatever – I’m no doctor and don’t really have an educated view on the matter. But to assume all late stage terminations are where the mother is a victim is nuts. Otherwise we should apply that same rationale to other crimes as well.
As usual, women are somehow described as the victims in their own criminal actions. The woman who was on trial last year deliberately chose to investigate late stage abortion. She deliberately misled medical personnel because she knew it was wrong. If the intent of a thing is bad and it is a bad action…when does it count as a crime?