Germania: uno su quattro immigrati non vuole restare
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-one-in-four-immigrants-doesnt-want-to-stay/a-72936625
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__Why are immigrants leaving Germany? A new study shows that other countries are more attractive to economically successful foreigners. Discrimination also plays a major role.__
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Deutsche Bahn is probably one of the top reasons they don’t want to stay.
Because they either find learning the language an extra pain, or they don’t like German culture.
I fucking love germany, and once I learn the language I’m never going back to the shithole I was born in.
Yep, this sounds about right. Not even sure what I could add, but I’ll also end up leaving at some point, for all of the reasons stated in the article. IMHO, there are better places to live for someone like me.
* I think I found the post for the day, where is the popcorn *
Sad to read this, especially for a country that has so much potential. I, myself thinking about moving back home after spending 5 years here, and completed a bachelor’s degree here. 1 more year and I finish the master’s program. I am having difficulty finding a full-time job or even an odd job that pay a bit above minimum wage. On a note, I am extremely grateful to this country for giving me such a wonderful opportunity and experience but yeah
In a lot of situations you are only respected if you speak fluent German doesn’t matter if you are educated or not
Germany never misses an opportunity to get in the way of its own success.
Taxes, period end of paragraph.
so 75% want to stay. that are good numbers.
Aww poor Dylan doesn’t wanna learn German and has to separate his trash 😔 call the UN
I’m one of those who want to stay 🙋🏻♂️
How has nobody mentioned inherent xenophobia and scepticism of change (German Angst)? I am a highly educated and tax paying German and I am currently in the process of emigrating, because I can’t take this society anymore.
A lot of people I know are moving to the US or UK for better pay and not having to learn a difficult language. Some are moving to Switzerland, which is like the richer Germany. I appreciate what I’ve got in Germany but I’m also just waiting to get my German passport before I GTFO.
Absolute shittiest place to start or run a business. God forbid people want to take risks and actually create value.
Which also means three in four immigrants want to stay.
mostly because germany doesn’t want them to
I actually participated in this study. It’s absolutely correct though. Almost of all the reasons mentioned, track my answers as well.
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Means that 75% want to stay. Thats still horrible. Germany you can do better (or worse for them in this case).
Looking at the state of Germany, I call that a win.
Inshallah
Especially the educated ones, as many I know either have already left or are planning to do so.
And it’s mainly because of the Job system that does not acknowledge foreign qualifications as much as it should. And also the lack of respect toward foreigners in the whole society, not sympathy, respect, which you expect when you consider yourself to be qualified.
I will only learn German so that I can move to Switzerland 🇨🇭 👋👋👋
I am planning my leave. If Germany was an appartment, I would say the rent is too expensive for what it offers, structure is degrading and there are no plan to reform it. Oh, and you can’t make noise, because the owner leaves right in the floor under yours and he is an asshole.
The fact that they won’t talk to you in English in some cities’ Ausländerbehörde is completely insane to me and the main reason I may want to leave.
There’s a lot I like here but having to convince the guys that DO NOT want me here to give me permissions to be here is completely ridiculous. I have a job in tech btw, just no degree so I couldn’t get a bluecard. Apparently they do speak English if you have a bluecard or something. Then there was this change in immigration law that should let me apply for a bluecard because I have a lot of experience but they asked just to give evidence of my experience with 0 specifics of what I actually needed to send. It sucks.
basically people providing actual value to the country want to leave, the study is confirming a sentiment we noticed in the past few years. We know who are those who will never leave
I am German myself and I immigrated to Canada. The amount of frustrations I had when I had to deal with the German bureaucracy is huge… So I can only imagine how it must be for an immigrant in Germany to deal with that. That alone would be reason enough for me to leave
So 75% want to stay?
That’s a sign that’s something is wrong but good on them, I don’t want to stay either and I won’t.
They don’t want to stay but most of them will never leave.
And?
75% sounds good to me.
However im curious about the discrimination. Do they mean blatant hate towards them specifically or just something not going their way?
Filling out these surveys are all done on an honor system arent they?
I mean unless you are really in need Germany doesn’t make it easy for you as an immigrant to live so if you have support (friends family) in other countries you’ll stay because you actually like it here
***First day of Germany***
“This country is so beautiful, but there might be something wrong with people, they don’t smile.”
***goes to Hofbräuhaus***
“What’s wrong with the service in restaurants in Germany?”
***goes to Ausländerbehorde***
“Will I ever get an appointment? Why is the lady screaming at me?”
***receives first paycheck***
“Where did the rest of my salary go?”
***tries to get an appointment at a doctor***
“Why do I need to wait 4 months for a simple appointment? Why did the doctor only prescribe me Ibuprofen and tea?”
***tries to make German friends***
“Why Germans only hangout with other Germans?”
Yeah, I wonder why 1 in 4 immigrants doesn’t want to stay.
It could be interesting to see this statistic by the type of migrant. Of all the highly skilled professionals that I have met, only two have told me that they want to stay for good.
It’s not only immigrants leaving, why do you think there is such a big hole in sectors like healthcare, I mean actual doctors?
Germany, and in many cases western European employers as a whole have a shortage of skilled labor but aren’t willing to pay the rates skilled labor demands.
The gap between highly trained labor and unskilled labor is too small while the gap in the other direction, towards old money, is way too large.
Of course, there are a lot of people with valuable skills that want to leave when they are getting offerings for 50K Euro a year when realistically the starting minimum for the same job can be $100K a year elsewhere, especially in the tech sector. Migrant or otherwise.
Now we also have an absolute moron in charge who demands people work even more hours for less.
Talk about not being able to read the room.
It also doesn’t help that mild xenophobia is baked in with a latent superiority complex within the very culture around here.
I bet also one in four naturalized or even more
This was actually very interesting and hope everyone took the chance to read it and look further into the stats they provided.
My thoughts:
Where does the # of 400k immigrants needed come from to maintain the labor force?
Since Germany is an aging country and taxes are too high, would this change in the future?
What does taxes go towards other than Healthcare? I’ve lived in the South of Germany for a while and it looked like it was stuck in time from 1978-1989.
And here they still are.