Met Police lancia pattuglie per proteggere donne e ragazze dalla violenza ai concerti

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The optics on these are always so fucking terrible.

Yes, there needs to be something to protect the vulnerable at large events (and the vulnerable is *mostly* women, children and the disabled), but instead of saying “to protect women and girls” just make it the fucking policy to protect the vulnerable.

Largely the same thing, but not explicitly excluding men and male children. Also making more likely that men and boys that need the help won’t feel pressured to avoid the “women and girls” patrols.

It isn’t rocket science.

Ok hypothetical time (I expect mass anonymous DV with no engagement or discourse cos this is Reddit). This V100 initiative seems to focus on known offenders using things like these concerts to commit further crimes. Being tracked by the MET and removed from the area so they do not commit any further crimes…Minority Report springs to mind.

Millions of revelers to wade through… so this is a great catalyst for the implementation of facial recognition cameras and AI driven detection etc.

BUT…

**Scenario 1:**

Let’s say then as a man, I am deep in the crowd at a Beyonce concert, people are having fun, there’s alcohol etc, involved and I happen to “squeeze” past people to head to the toilets innocently. People aren’t moving out the way when I say “excuse me can I get past” (unlike that Gregg Wallace supermarket incident). Yet, one female raver decides that the physical contact was deliberate and sexual. It gets reported, I am singled-out and now it’s a case of how do you prove that it was sexual or deliberate? Are concerts fully surveyed by camera, who decides?

I am removed from the premises…

**Scenario 2:**

As a man, I am at a concert, another man dancing behind me, grabs my penis (this is democracy manifest, you know your Judo well). I flinch, turn around and I cannot ascertain who did this. I am not gay, and report this. There is no camera footage to aid this.

The outcome is, I have to suck it up and carry on or just leave.

**Scenario 3:**

As a woman, I am at a concert and someone behind me slaps my butt, I turn round, “Oi, no” I report it. The incident can clearly be seen on cameras. The perv is removed from the site. (A fella did this at a concert and slapped the actual performers ass, and the boyfriend and his security jumped the guy – it’s on video).

**Scenario 4:**

I am a perv, not known to the police. Like many at concerts, I am holding up my phone recording. However, as a super-perv, I position myself as close to as many female revellers and **deliberately** drop my phone in the off chance that in that moment, I get some upskirt shots. I fumble about taking slightly longer than usual to pick the phone up off the ground. Once retrieved, I casually move to another location and repeat.

How is this policed? AI?

**Scenario 4b:** is highly dangerous, because what if the person innocently drops the recording phone and then is ACCUSED of upskirting…????

**Scenario 5 and this is the kicker:**

I am a male reveller, enjoying the show, dancing in the crowd, a female reveler likes the way I look and starts touching me… I don’t like it. Instead of being calm and saying, “don’t do that please”. I report it. Not because I am that upset, but because I stand for justice and if it was the other way around, I’d be vilified.

When I am reporting this, those who are taking the details have a slight smirk on their faces and it’s obvious they are not taking the complaint seriously and that there’s a mentality that as a male, I should be flattered or grow a pair.

The incident is investigated, and the slightly worse for ware female perp, is given a warning and told to calm down before being allowed to go back and enjoy the rest of the concert…

Basically, these concerts could have full drone and camera coverage to catch these incidents driven by AI. There could be staff amongst the revellers to catch these incidents. There could also be warnings upon entry to the venue that plain clothed security and officers are amongst the revellers to act as a deterrent.

Right?

Basically, it’s really difficult to police. This is the point I am making. Without camera footage or statements from witnesses, it can delve into your word against mine scenarios. Or just misunderstandings. But, as others have pointed-out, this seems to once again be about protecting WOMEN and that MEN are the predators who need weeding-out. And, if the men are victims too, they need to put-up and grow a pair.

As an ex clubber/illegal raver, how the hell did we cope back then, how do mosh-pits still exist. There were probably 1000s of unreported incidents against men and women alike especially with the E culture around raves. I think you just have to be sensible, stay close to friends (don’t go to loos alone), and be very self-aware if you put yourself into those situations.