Remind me – how long has been Orby at helm? Decade? Decade and half?
whoizdatboy on
YESSS IT’S NOT US ANYMORE š¦š¦š¦
water_kite308 on
Lets go we are number 1 once again
AideSpartak on
Thank you, mister Orban! Now we finally arenāt last in every EU statistic
klemonth on
And they say how left canāt do economy⦠look at this right wing man
heapOfWallStreet on
Another success for patridiots parties.
Spicy-hot_Ramen on
Sheesh, that’s why Orban doesn’t want us in the EU. We would take his #1 spot
TheGoalkeeper on
Poorest and most fascist! Hope Hungarians stand up at the next election (and afterwards). I believe in them.
drubus_dong on
“Currently” in the EU
Lopendebank3 on
How Orbanistan has fallen…
Equivalent-Role4632 on
Well that’s what fascist do. They rob their countries blind. Putin is the worlds richest man and everyone else are dirt poor. Same in China. Same in all fascist countries. They are just thieves.
dcroopev on
Now that we are not first we have to find a new purpose in life. It feels like Wile E. Coyote finally catching the Roadrunner.
VennDiagrammed1 on
Vote Fidesz for 15 years and thatās what you get! No sympathy!
saxon_pilgrim on
Iāve never heard from so many happy Bulgarians at once! Keep it down yāall! š
National_Notice230 on
Bulgaria is ascendent!
FluffyPuffOfficial on
Starvation jokes will continue, Iām afraid.
redshirt6666 on
and orbƔn and his family is the richest among the leaders in europe.
discographyA on
One True Balkan
saurfang_fan on
EU in the end is supposed to be an economic trade union, and it’s not built to be more than that, even though many act as if it was more. As long as Hungarians can vote democratically, what they vote is their own responsibility as a nation.
untruth-social-6666 on
Not sure the EU can get involved with a āviolation of valuesā if they can then europe has an identity issue
Leofreeman on
But but but itās the evil EUās fault!
minobi on
Populism is kinda costly
LethalOkra on
I am curious. What can the EU really do in such a scenario? I mean other than impose fines and cutting of funding. Such a case is unprecedented and it would be the first time to see the EU adapt and step up by actually doing something to impose certain values on its members.
Buriedpickle on
While this is a hilarious slight against OrbĆ”n’s propaganda, it’s not really true.
Now, AIC isn’t really a measure of how poor a nation is. It’s a measure of consumption. While it has some relation to wealth, it’s influenced by quite a lot of other factors, some examples:
* consumption tendencies of the population (not huge differences within Europe)
* debt usage – is the common person willing to back consumption with debt?
* economic, financial security – does the common person feel safe, or would they rather save their money for a forseeable rainy day?
* sudden inflation – does the common person feel like everything has gotten much more expensive, and do they radically decrease their consumption as a reaction?
If a population is poorer, but is willing to use debt to back their spending, and isn’t scared of the economic future, the country’s AIC will go up. If a country is well off, but the population wants to keep larger emergency fund volumes, then the AIC will decrease.
Of course, AIC is still an important statistic. It shows the vigour of domestic economies – if no-one buys products and services, revenues will decrease regardless of how wealthy a country is. That’s a really bad sign.
But it shouldn’t be used to determine how poor a country is. If we followed this logic, then Poland, Czechia, and Slovenia – quite well-off countries in CEE – would be poorer than Romania.
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*Edit: please, always look up indices when seeing data like this. Misrepresenting and misinterpreting statistics is all too common. These aren’t points of data that should be used without understanding.*
*This is especially common when considering deeply flawed indices like HDI. (If you want to use something like HDI, at least use inequality adjusted HDI)*
Tman11S on
I can only encourage the Hungarians to get rid of their Russian pawn leader. Thereās very little the EU can do against a democratically elected leader
justhereforpokemons on
His oligarchs are definitely not the poorest, anymore…
never_nick on
Good, hungry people tend to revolt….no pun intended
Mercy--Main on
why haven’t we kicked them out yet? is italy blocking now instead of poland?
Eethk7 on
Meanwhile Orban’s bank accounts gets fatter and fatter thanks to Vlad donations…
vvblz on
Based on what criteria?
zer0dmg on
I know the Individual Consumption thing is just some half made-up statistic that doesn’t really mean that Hungary is now somehow worse/poorer than Bulgaria but I’m getting so much Schadenfreude now. Finally, enough with this ‘EU’s poorest member’ thing that’s always been mentioned in any article about Bulgaria for decades now. It’s someone else’s turn for a change.
igooazoo on
Orbanistan…such a pity.
jeremiasalmeida on
The environment the far right loves
Long_Hovercraft_3975 on
So…hungarians do not dare to contest the Orban by themselves but call for EU to do the job. Just great.
wil3k on
It really takes a lot of corruption and oppression of workers rights to keep a country that received such a high amount of investment by foreign companies that poor.
Hungary is like a third-tier oil state without oil.
ProfessionWeird6468 on
Sorry but UE dont help Orban will again put money to own pocketĀ
Useless_or_inept on
ā Delicious food
ā Beautiful landscapes
ā Part of Europe, but overlooked by the West
ā Ottomans? No, that’s nothing to do with us, our nation is pure and eternal
ā Yes, we are 100% democratic. If newspapers are shut down and activists are in prison, that proves the effectiveness of our justice system
ā Due to economic mismanagement, 60% of the economy depends on German tourists
Confirmed: Hungary is 100% Balkan
SplendidPunkinButter on
Not according to Orban it isnāt
bansheesho on
Hmm, so is there a correlation to conservative/authoritarian politics and poor results for the economy and it’s people? I wonder if there was some way of easily tracking this?
Impressive_Study9438 on
As someone from the balkans Iāve got to ask you, was that label necessary and nice?
KataraMan on
As a Balkan I feel offended…. that we are not the poorest! We try so hard!
CertainNet9823 on
There should be an EU Mechanism to intervene in countries that do not adhere to the values of the block. It should be possible for citizens at least to hold a referendum direct with the EU to make certain sanctions or restrictions on their own government
solwaj on
poorer than bulgaria dude? gg honestly that shit takes skill
Thre3thre3 on
finally! the great leader made Hungary hungry again !
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Remind me – how long has been Orby at helm? Decade? Decade and half?
YESSS IT’S NOT US ANYMORE š¦š¦š¦
Lets go we are number 1 once again
Thank you, mister Orban! Now we finally arenāt last in every EU statistic
And they say how left canāt do economy⦠look at this right wing man
Another success for patridiots parties.
Sheesh, that’s why Orban doesn’t want us in the EU. We would take his #1 spot
Poorest and most fascist! Hope Hungarians stand up at the next election (and afterwards). I believe in them.
“Currently” in the EU
How Orbanistan has fallen…
Well that’s what fascist do. They rob their countries blind. Putin is the worlds richest man and everyone else are dirt poor. Same in China. Same in all fascist countries. They are just thieves.
Now that we are not first we have to find a new purpose in life. It feels like Wile E. Coyote finally catching the Roadrunner.
Vote Fidesz for 15 years and thatās what you get! No sympathy!
Iāve never heard from so many happy Bulgarians at once! Keep it down yāall! š
Bulgaria is ascendent!
Starvation jokes will continue, Iām afraid.
and orbƔn and his family is the richest among the leaders in europe.
One True Balkan
EU in the end is supposed to be an economic trade union, and it’s not built to be more than that, even though many act as if it was more. As long as Hungarians can vote democratically, what they vote is their own responsibility as a nation.
Not sure the EU can get involved with a āviolation of valuesā if they can then europe has an identity issue
But but but itās the evil EUās fault!
Populism is kinda costly
I am curious. What can the EU really do in such a scenario? I mean other than impose fines and cutting of funding. Such a case is unprecedented and it would be the first time to see the EU adapt and step up by actually doing something to impose certain values on its members.
While this is a hilarious slight against OrbĆ”n’s propaganda, it’s not really true.
The index cited in the article is the AIC data in [this ](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/en/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20250618-1)article.
Now, AIC isn’t really a measure of how poor a nation is. It’s a measure of consumption. While it has some relation to wealth, it’s influenced by quite a lot of other factors, some examples:
* consumption tendencies of the population (not huge differences within Europe)
* debt usage – is the common person willing to back consumption with debt?
* economic, financial security – does the common person feel safe, or would they rather save their money for a forseeable rainy day?
* sudden inflation – does the common person feel like everything has gotten much more expensive, and do they radically decrease their consumption as a reaction?
If a population is poorer, but is willing to use debt to back their spending, and isn’t scared of the economic future, the country’s AIC will go up. If a country is well off, but the population wants to keep larger emergency fund volumes, then the AIC will decrease.
Of course, AIC is still an important statistic. It shows the vigour of domestic economies – if no-one buys products and services, revenues will decrease regardless of how wealthy a country is. That’s a really bad sign.
But it shouldn’t be used to determine how poor a country is. If we followed this logic, then Poland, Czechia, and Slovenia – quite well-off countries in CEE – would be poorer than Romania.
___
*Edit: please, always look up indices when seeing data like this. Misrepresenting and misinterpreting statistics is all too common. These aren’t points of data that should be used without understanding.*
*This is especially common when considering deeply flawed indices like HDI. (If you want to use something like HDI, at least use inequality adjusted HDI)*
I can only encourage the Hungarians to get rid of their Russian pawn leader. Thereās very little the EU can do against a democratically elected leader
His oligarchs are definitely not the poorest, anymore…
Good, hungry people tend to revolt….no pun intended
why haven’t we kicked them out yet? is italy blocking now instead of poland?
Meanwhile Orban’s bank accounts gets fatter and fatter thanks to Vlad donations…
Based on what criteria?
I know the Individual Consumption thing is just some half made-up statistic that doesn’t really mean that Hungary is now somehow worse/poorer than Bulgaria but I’m getting so much Schadenfreude now. Finally, enough with this ‘EU’s poorest member’ thing that’s always been mentioned in any article about Bulgaria for decades now. It’s someone else’s turn for a change.
Orbanistan…such a pity.
The environment the far right loves
So…hungarians do not dare to contest the Orban by themselves but call for EU to do the job. Just great.
It really takes a lot of corruption and oppression of workers rights to keep a country that received such a high amount of investment by foreign companies that poor.
Hungary is like a third-tier oil state without oil.
Sorry but UE dont help Orban will again put money to own pocketĀ
ā Delicious food
ā Beautiful landscapes
ā Part of Europe, but overlooked by the West
ā Ottomans? No, that’s nothing to do with us, our nation is pure and eternal
ā Yes, we are 100% democratic. If newspapers are shut down and activists are in prison, that proves the effectiveness of our justice system
ā Due to economic mismanagement, 60% of the economy depends on German tourists
Confirmed: Hungary is 100% Balkan
Not according to Orban it isnāt
Hmm, so is there a correlation to conservative/authoritarian politics and poor results for the economy and it’s people? I wonder if there was some way of easily tracking this?
As someone from the balkans Iāve got to ask you, was that label necessary and nice?
As a Balkan I feel offended…. that we are not the poorest! We try so hard!
There should be an EU Mechanism to intervene in countries that do not adhere to the values of the block. It should be possible for citizens at least to hold a referendum direct with the EU to make certain sanctions or restrictions on their own government
poorer than bulgaria dude? gg honestly that shit takes skill
finally! the great leader made Hungary hungry again !
Until Ukraine joins the EU…
Well someone needs to be the lastā¦
Trump…hold my beer.
Hungary the role model for trumps MAGA movement.
They worked hard for it.