Per quanto mi riguarda, Joe Plunkett è morto per un’Irlanda libera. Una democrazia che determinante, in cui i cittadini irlandesi potrebbero vivere liberi dall’oppressione.

    Che una canzone su sua moglie, Grace Gifford, e il suo sacrificio, viene usata come inno da questi Gombeens alt-destra è disgustoso. È abbastanza brutto che salutano il tri-colorato e la bandiera della Repubblica Irish, ma questo è davvero un passo troppo lontano.

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    1. North_Activity_5980 on

      Irish people singing an Irish song waving an Irish flag is a step to far?

    2. Sawdust1997 on

      While I agree with your principles, your argument is poor and full of holes.

    3. thatirishguykev on

      Just to play devils avocado, but wouldn’t ”a self determining democracy” mean people can protest and sing about stuff if they believe that’s an issue close to them? I mean I disagree with them, but isn’t that exactly what Joe Plunkett fought for and died for?

      EDIT: On top of that too it’s very important not to take people who lived in a totally different time and died more than 100 years ago and say they’d think xyz about abc…

    4. tanks4dmammories on

      There is a dance version they play in Irish/Scottish bars abroad. It has a bit that goes, “I will die, I will die, I will die” everyone sings it in a fun way. So weird!

    5. guinnessarse on

      Irish people who are feeling the squeeze in housing, schooling, medical care, public transport, cost of living etc. sing a song  about a man who died for the Irish people and you take issue with that?

      You’re right, Joseph Plunkett died so that 150k + people can enter this country every year making it extremely difficult for Irish people to get housing and move out of their parents homes. 

      He died so that within one generation we could go from a majority house dwelling people to a people who predominantly live in small apartments or are crippled by the repayments on a house. 

      He died so that our government could encourage our parents / grandparents to downsize so that we can house the hundreds of thousands of people coming into the country. 

      He died so that our SPHE books in schools can have racist any-Irish depictions in them that even Punch would have been proud of. 

      He died so that Irish culture would become an afterthought and our Taoiseach would pretend that he isn’t aware that an Irish people ever existed. 

    6. caisdara on

      I hate when people try and beatify the 1916 leaders. Not least on such flimsy grounds as a song he didn’t write.

      In broad terms, his brother George joined the anti-Treaty IRA and did not ever join FF.

      He remained in the IRA but rejected the IRA’s links to Nazism, albeit didn’t leave.

      So he was no Sean Russell, but he was probably not a racist. Assuming his journey reflected similarities to his brother’s beliefs, you could just about say Joseph Plunkett probably wouldn’t like the far-right, but there’s so little to go on as to make it all a bit silly.

    7. miju-irl on

      Jesus wept, are we seriously gatekeeping who’s allowed to sing Grace now?

    8. aBoyNamedWho on

      These right wing clowns sing Grace while standing with their loyalist paramilitary friends who slaughtered Irish men, women and kids in the North.

      Screaming patriotism while bootlicking Britain’s murder gangs just about sums them up.

    9. dearg_doom80 on

      All the Irish far right are , are useful idiots for FF/FG

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