> Amazingly, one venue on the Glastonbury lineup is not only unable to pay a fee, but is also asking its performers to work three eight-hour bar shifts as well – also unpaid – in order to have the chance of playing Glasto.
They should learn how to say “piss off”
RunRinseRepeat666 on
This is disappointing behaviour from Glastonbury organisers 🥹
Personal_Director441 on
My tiny violin is worn out in the pity party for the middle class pop festival its become.
greatdrams23 on
The acts pay because it is worth a lot. Nobody makes the acts perform, they do it because they want to do it.
Express-Doughnut-562 on
It’s really difficult this.
Glastonbury is an institution that, in the past, has never been commercial and has great charitable outcomes. I think we can all agree that having established bands paid less than normal or doing it for free is fine – provided they still pay their crews fairly.
To an extent, getting free tickets to play is sort of ok as well for smaller acts, provided they want to go the festival anyway. An hours work for a £350 ticket at something you wanted to attend is fair enough. Making people work in a bar in top of that is outrageous and bang out of order.
The worst is the squeeze on artists in the middle – big enough that it isn’t a hobby, but not big enough to have a major label try and bankroll them. Last year Nadine Shah was supposed to play. She is an established artist, sells plenty of records and tickets – music is certainly her full time job – but she’s not headlining arena tours level. She couldn’t play because the fee wouldn’t have covered paying her band, let alone provide anything to live off. Another act that was due to headline the Other stage a year or two back had to pull out because the festival couldn’t cover the cost of their crew.
That’s why we’re seeing a lot more DJs at the festival – its cheaper and more easy to justify a low fee when there is one or two of your compared to 7 or 8 or more.
Another example are the artists that build certain areas of the festival. Someone I know does various set dressing things for another festival, as well as run workshops and all sorts – it’s her full time job. As an example, a small independent festival with 20k capacity pays her £400 for a weekends work – painting some signs, running some workshops, as well as give her free tickets and meals the time she’s there which she feels is fair when it includes a free ticket and a load of spare time to enjoy the festival itself. Glastonbury wanted her to do this same artwork for free, but also do some general handy-work around the site to ‘pay’ for her ticket.
It’s difficult for the festival. Inflation is doing them over, plus increased faff and regulation so that what was once a party for like-minded folk that was a bit lawless and edgy is a middle-class day out for many. The festival have done a great job milking the corporate teat for all its worth; getting free headliners from record labels, just enough corporate sponsorship to keep things ticking over without impacting the should of the festival too much (although a Adidas football shirt is just a touch too far..)
With the stuff around forced bar shifts it really does feel like the festival is going too far and is unethical and abusive towards smaller acts these days. But I fear without that it would cease to exist.
ottoandinga88 on
Glasto jumped the shark the moment they started releasing tickets before the lineup was announced
FewEstablishment2696 on
So? No one has a gun put to their heads and are forced to pay/work at Glastonbury. People do it because they want to.
SuspiciousAgency5025 on
This isn’t a new concept for the diabolical UK Music industry. If you’re an unsigned band, every gig you do it pay-to-play.
Bar staff? Paid
Security? Paid
Sound guy? Paid
Band? Not paid, but you’re paying to get there, be there, rehearse, bring punters in… But without the bands, there is no venue.
Cyanopicacooki on
>140,000 tickets, at £378.50 each
I paid about a tenner at the gate when I went…
nikhilsath on
I did my dissertation on government corruption. The group hosting Glasto are the worst offenders they give tens of thousands in bribes to avoid being further regulated
ScientistArtistic917 on
I can’t get any paid gigs because I’m not good enough to attract an audience.
I still very much enjoy playing and when I do events, a parking space is something I’m most grateful for.
It sounds like a way of paying off the ticket which doesn’t seem too bad and no-one is being compelled to do to go.
It’s possible that it’s a good deal for all parties.
FelisCantabrigiensis on
“It’s for charideeeee!” only goes so far. Not this far.
If the festival has enough surplus to give away millions to charities, then it has enough revenue to pay people reasonably, rather than exploit them. As the article says, every other serious festival pays the going wage for the jobs done there. It’s just Glasto that doesn’t.
Yes, it’s exploitive to use a prominent position in the industry and that BBC TV exposure to get bands – bands who don’t have big back catalogues and stadium-tour venues – to play for nothing or less than nothing (paying to play).
Yes, it’s exploitive to have people working for less than minimum wage, let alone less than a reasonable wage for their skills.
If the people working there want to work for free for a charity, let them choose – tick a box “donate my wages to your charitable fund”. Otherwise, it’s just Glastonbury using its market power to exploit a lot of people.
gagagagaNope on
Time to take it out back and shoot it, it’s had its time.
Any-Lingonberry-6641 on
Same old bullshit across the country, opportunity is increasingly only a really thing for the well off.
acripaul on
Well their last published accounts showed a bit over £3m in the bank and a year on year increase in profit & loss reserves of around £550k. So financially pretty healthy.
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> Amazingly, one venue on the Glastonbury lineup is not only unable to pay a fee, but is also asking its performers to work three eight-hour bar shifts as well – also unpaid – in order to have the chance of playing Glasto.
They should learn how to say “piss off”
This is disappointing behaviour from Glastonbury organisers 🥹
My tiny violin is worn out in the pity party for the middle class pop festival its become.
The acts pay because it is worth a lot. Nobody makes the acts perform, they do it because they want to do it.
It’s really difficult this.
Glastonbury is an institution that, in the past, has never been commercial and has great charitable outcomes. I think we can all agree that having established bands paid less than normal or doing it for free is fine – provided they still pay their crews fairly.
To an extent, getting free tickets to play is sort of ok as well for smaller acts, provided they want to go the festival anyway. An hours work for a £350 ticket at something you wanted to attend is fair enough. Making people work in a bar in top of that is outrageous and bang out of order.
The worst is the squeeze on artists in the middle – big enough that it isn’t a hobby, but not big enough to have a major label try and bankroll them. Last year Nadine Shah was supposed to play. She is an established artist, sells plenty of records and tickets – music is certainly her full time job – but she’s not headlining arena tours level. She couldn’t play because the fee wouldn’t have covered paying her band, let alone provide anything to live off. Another act that was due to headline the Other stage a year or two back had to pull out because the festival couldn’t cover the cost of their crew.
That’s why we’re seeing a lot more DJs at the festival – its cheaper and more easy to justify a low fee when there is one or two of your compared to 7 or 8 or more.
Another example are the artists that build certain areas of the festival. Someone I know does various set dressing things for another festival, as well as run workshops and all sorts – it’s her full time job. As an example, a small independent festival with 20k capacity pays her £400 for a weekends work – painting some signs, running some workshops, as well as give her free tickets and meals the time she’s there which she feels is fair when it includes a free ticket and a load of spare time to enjoy the festival itself. Glastonbury wanted her to do this same artwork for free, but also do some general handy-work around the site to ‘pay’ for her ticket.
It’s difficult for the festival. Inflation is doing them over, plus increased faff and regulation so that what was once a party for like-minded folk that was a bit lawless and edgy is a middle-class day out for many. The festival have done a great job milking the corporate teat for all its worth; getting free headliners from record labels, just enough corporate sponsorship to keep things ticking over without impacting the should of the festival too much (although a Adidas football shirt is just a touch too far..)
With the stuff around forced bar shifts it really does feel like the festival is going too far and is unethical and abusive towards smaller acts these days. But I fear without that it would cease to exist.
Glasto jumped the shark the moment they started releasing tickets before the lineup was announced
So? No one has a gun put to their heads and are forced to pay/work at Glastonbury. People do it because they want to.
This isn’t a new concept for the diabolical UK Music industry. If you’re an unsigned band, every gig you do it pay-to-play.
Bar staff? Paid
Security? Paid
Sound guy? Paid
Band? Not paid, but you’re paying to get there, be there, rehearse, bring punters in… But without the bands, there is no venue.
>140,000 tickets, at £378.50 each
I paid about a tenner at the gate when I went…
I did my dissertation on government corruption. The group hosting Glasto are the worst offenders they give tens of thousands in bribes to avoid being further regulated
I can’t get any paid gigs because I’m not good enough to attract an audience.
I still very much enjoy playing and when I do events, a parking space is something I’m most grateful for.
It sounds like a way of paying off the ticket which doesn’t seem too bad and no-one is being compelled to do to go.
It’s possible that it’s a good deal for all parties.
“It’s for charideeeee!” only goes so far. Not this far.
If the festival has enough surplus to give away millions to charities, then it has enough revenue to pay people reasonably, rather than exploit them. As the article says, every other serious festival pays the going wage for the jobs done there. It’s just Glasto that doesn’t.
Yes, it’s exploitive to use a prominent position in the industry and that BBC TV exposure to get bands – bands who don’t have big back catalogues and stadium-tour venues – to play for nothing or less than nothing (paying to play).
Yes, it’s exploitive to have people working for less than minimum wage, let alone less than a reasonable wage for their skills.
If the people working there want to work for free for a charity, let them choose – tick a box “donate my wages to your charitable fund”. Otherwise, it’s just Glastonbury using its market power to exploit a lot of people.
Time to take it out back and shoot it, it’s had its time.
Same old bullshit across the country, opportunity is increasingly only a really thing for the well off.
Well their last published accounts showed a bit over £3m in the bank and a year on year increase in profit & loss reserves of around £550k. So financially pretty healthy.