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    1. BestButtons on

      > **the housing ombudsman told us complaints about such issues had doubled over the last five years and authorities needed to work more collaboratively to protect people**.

      > Dilara’s father Ecevit, 50, says when he told their neighbour to turn the music down at 04:00 one morning in January, she came out with a knife. The incident left him “shaking”. The neighbour was arrested but released on bail and was back home the next day.

      > The neighbour pleaded guilty to threatening “a person with a blade/sharply pointed article in a public place” and will be sentenced in July. But the anti-social behaviour has continued.

      > Last month, she allegedly smashed the car windscreen of one of Ecevit’s other daughters. The neighbour has now been charged.

      When someone gets serious injuries or is killed, then something is done and “lessons will be learned “.

    2. ExtensionGuilty8084 on

      I recall a lawyer friend telling me how an elderly man had to put up to a racist living above who had drilled a hole down the floor and hurled abuse, spat and dripped his own blood every time he saw the elderly walk around.

      The HA did fuck all.

    3. Kind-County9767 on

      And Reddit wonders why people oppose any social housing anywhere near them.

    4. FourFoxMusic on

      Because right now in this conversation they’re anti social neighbours.

      In other conversations they’re victims of poverty, disabled, mentally ill, people struggling with addiction, people struggling with inequality, etc.

      Whatever thoughts you’re having right now towards this article and whatever better idea you have for dealing with this you must keep these thoughts in mind when discussing the other issues that lead to the general public having to deal with things like this. I’m sure we will have all spoken about this 50 year old father as a portion of a statistic at some point when we have had other conversations and disregarded the individual going through it.

    5. MultiMidden on

      I know people who live in social housing and the only time anyone got evicted from their block of flats was when they moved in with their OH so weren’t living there anymore. Not the ASB, not the weed smoking that stunk out the place…

      Have a sneaking suspicion that it’s all to do with the 1977 Housing Act created a statutory duty on councils to provide accommodation and assistance to certain categories of homeless people. Basically if they end-up evicting them they’ll end-up having to rehouse them. Many people think this is the reason why council estates became such shiteholes in the 1980s.

    6. HighWaterSheriff on

      I used to work in council housing and I have the utmost sympathy for decent tenants and ex-council residents who have to put up with this shit. The vast majority of council and housing association tenants are absolutely fine but the problem is antisocial people are also the most likely to be prioritised on the housing list through playing the system, homelessness, risk of homelessness or quite sketchy medical grounds. They’re extremely difficult to evict and if they are evicted they’ll likely end up in social housing again because unsurprisingly no private landlord would want them. If they do find a naive landlord they’ll just not pay their rent (housing benefits rarely go direct to the landlord under universal credit), trash the place then later fuck off back to council housing when declared homeless anyway.

      It’s pretty depressing and I genuinely don’t know what the best resolution is. Lump them all together and you end up with a hellhole of a street no one wants to set foot on, put them in a nice area and they cause sheer misery to their often elderly or vulnerable neighbours. The crimes are usually petty enough they either don’t warrant custodial sentences or if they do it’s very short-term.

      I also feel extremely sorry for their kids being raised by such appalling parents and fear for their futures.

    7. The issue is when victims finally lash out / snap they are hauled over the coals. Either the police / home associations deal with this properly, or you let people sort it out themselves.

    8. baldy-84 on

      See stories like this a lot these days. Housing associations/councils are very slow to deal with problem tenants if they do at all. It must be amazing to buy a half million pound house on a new estate and have the government move crackhead towers in down the road.

    9. PsychologicalBend508 on

      we let kids get away with this in schools, with “no exclusion” policies and so on, and now the malaise has spread to the adult world. you cant escape it. people can make you miserable day after day and no one will do anything about it. There are no longer consequences, except for those of us just trying to get on.

    10. pintofendlesssummer on

      My brother years ago living in woolwich was threatened with a gun by a drug dealer who had cuckoo’d the neighbours flat . The police did sweet fa, and the councils advice to my brother was to keep his head down for a few weeks. He gave up his council flat shortly after and left.

    11. TopRemarkable4325 on

      When I lived in Belfast in the 70s, antisocial behaviour, drug dealers, burglars, and car thieves always ended up with walking difficulties and a warning to leave the area, could honestly leave your door open anytime day or night

    12. Ok_Crab1603 on

      We are in a similar situation being harassed by a social housing tenant.

      We have a open case and will be posting the evidence when its closed

    13. GenerallyDull on

      I’ve lived near social housing twice.

      Once was absolutely fine. A very cohesive community who cared about the area they lived in.

      The second time was terrible. Lots of demographics thrown together, all speaking different languages and with very different cultures. Lots of violence, lots of sexual harassment of women and even school girls IN SCHOOL UNIFORM.

    14. red-panda-returns on

      Lol. Threats with knife? Why would housing ass. do anything? That’s a job for police…

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