If that wide tongued liar gets into any kind of real power, the UK deserves everything it gets.
No-Potential-7242 on
Yup. Thickos who gave us Boris Johnson jumping on board with yet another charlatan. Farage will bring us Trump-like chaos and then thickos will whinge he deceived them… and turn around and vote for the next charlatan.
TuringComplete213 on
This is not the will of the people, but the will of the bourgeoisie, we live in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie with pundits in the media on their paycheck.
Remarkable-Ad155 on
At least I might finally be able to persuade my wife to give living abroad a chance. Probably be too old by that point *sigh*
t8ne on
Let’s see what noises he makes about PR over the next few years…
TisOnlyTemp on
He’s gonna win purely because of immigration, then completely ruin the country even worse whilst probably doing nothing about immigration. But at least he’ll make more money for himself and his friends.
IgotAseaView on
Labour are literally in the driving seat. The main issue for voters is immigration. Do something you clowns
Wacov on
Christ we’re here because of Tories and Brexit. Why has everyone decided the solution is ultra-Tories led by captain Brexit
baneandgain on
Democracy gives you Brexit and trump.
Voters should have to pass a basic intelligence test to be allowed to vote.
SableSnail on
After the Brexit disaster I don’t understand how anyone can vote for him.
Even if you agree with Reform’s policies, it’s clear he’s really dishonest and untrustworthy so you be pretty sure you won’t get what you’re voting for,
EgoCity on
Dumb polls, this always happens early in governments and means absolutely nothing. The only government this didn’t happen to, in my adult life, was the early years of Blair.
The first few years is always like this, I’ll be impressed if it’s like the just before an election, I very much doubt it will be.
FreakyGhostTown on
We’re going to keep dismissing it till the next GE and then all pretend to be baffled as how the country voted Reform in.
The message couldn’t be clearer, the country voted for Brexit to reduce migration. 2023 had 1.3 million arrive in the UK, 2025 is set to be the biggest year for boat migrants so far.
If you don’t want a Reform majority, reduce migration now and stop the boats, it’s that simple.
Current_Pitch8944 on
Tories did more harm to themselves than any other party could have. Labour got in because the Tories can’t lead and have done just as bad a job as the Tories did.
So the question is what’s the alternatives? Lib Dems want to go back into the EU so that alienates half the country.
The green party would cripple most business with it’s plans to cut emissions even though the UK is a microscopic contributor.
Reform is the only one close to labour or Tories
Am I missing a party?
Thetonn on
I live in South Wales. We’ve had a left wing Labour government for decades, and it has given us remarkably little evidence that a more left wing version of Labour actually does much other than paying public sector workers slightly more, expanding out the bureaucracy and adding on to the regulatory burden.
It is also incredibly obvious here that the Tories do not have a single iota of a clue how to deal with the systematic economic challenges in the valleys. Instead, they retreat to a small number of rural enclaves with a disproportionately large number of retired English people, and say that the real problem is that the evil Welsh Government doesn’t spend enough on them.
You then look at the other parties. Plaid are the left wing version of Labour on steroids, thinking that the problem is that we haven’t created enough bureaucracy, we need more regulations, need to slice every tiny pie to create another slice we can pretend is new activity, all while completely struggling to convince anyone that their real priority is the valleys when their real priority is obviously West Wales.
You have the Lib Dems who take all of the posturing of Plaid, add in the NIMBYism and ruralism of the Tories, and you end up with more of the status quo.
What we are being offered by every party is the inevitable continuation of relative decline. Our town centres getting worse. Our public services getting worse. Our Council Tax bills continuing to rise. Buses getting cut.
The greatest lie in our politics at the moment is that democracy is offering us a real choice. It isn’t. We are just being offered the same packet of crisps in different coloured bags.
Everyone knows Farage is a liar. Everyone knows his policy platform is a crock of shite. Everyone knows his candidates will be a disaster.
Farage is a blunt instrument, directed towards a Westminster and Cardiff bay establishment. People dont particularly care which party or politicians get hit.
(I’m not voting Reform. I just get why people in shit valleys towns would)
PrupleGenesis on
If Reform would win, and immigration is Reforms largest political device, doesn’t that prove that there is an issue with immigration, or at least that people have an issue with it?
Genuine question.
ottoandinga88 on
Fitting that this guy always looks absolutely amazed at the prospect of his winning anything, since it flummoxes me as well
Ok-You4214 on
Nah huge numbers will say they’ll vote reform but chicken out in the moment and vote Tory as the devil they know. Vote split, Labour reign.
Longjumping_Kiwi8118 on
Yup.
Due to boomers and gen x sadly with education at GCSE or lower.
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If that wide tongued liar gets into any kind of real power, the UK deserves everything it gets.
Yup. Thickos who gave us Boris Johnson jumping on board with yet another charlatan. Farage will bring us Trump-like chaos and then thickos will whinge he deceived them… and turn around and vote for the next charlatan.
This is not the will of the people, but the will of the bourgeoisie, we live in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie with pundits in the media on their paycheck.
At least I might finally be able to persuade my wife to give living abroad a chance. Probably be too old by that point *sigh*
Let’s see what noises he makes about PR over the next few years…
He’s gonna win purely because of immigration, then completely ruin the country even worse whilst probably doing nothing about immigration. But at least he’ll make more money for himself and his friends.
Labour are literally in the driving seat. The main issue for voters is immigration. Do something you clowns
Christ we’re here because of Tories and Brexit. Why has everyone decided the solution is ultra-Tories led by captain Brexit
Democracy gives you Brexit and trump.
Voters should have to pass a basic intelligence test to be allowed to vote.
After the Brexit disaster I don’t understand how anyone can vote for him.
Even if you agree with Reform’s policies, it’s clear he’s really dishonest and untrustworthy so you be pretty sure you won’t get what you’re voting for,
Dumb polls, this always happens early in governments and means absolutely nothing. The only government this didn’t happen to, in my adult life, was the early years of Blair.
The first few years is always like this, I’ll be impressed if it’s like the just before an election, I very much doubt it will be.
We’re going to keep dismissing it till the next GE and then all pretend to be baffled as how the country voted Reform in.
The message couldn’t be clearer, the country voted for Brexit to reduce migration. 2023 had 1.3 million arrive in the UK, 2025 is set to be the biggest year for boat migrants so far.
If you don’t want a Reform majority, reduce migration now and stop the boats, it’s that simple.
Tories did more harm to themselves than any other party could have. Labour got in because the Tories can’t lead and have done just as bad a job as the Tories did.
So the question is what’s the alternatives? Lib Dems want to go back into the EU so that alienates half the country.
The green party would cripple most business with it’s plans to cut emissions even though the UK is a microscopic contributor.
Reform is the only one close to labour or Tories
Am I missing a party?
I live in South Wales. We’ve had a left wing Labour government for decades, and it has given us remarkably little evidence that a more left wing version of Labour actually does much other than paying public sector workers slightly more, expanding out the bureaucracy and adding on to the regulatory burden.
It is also incredibly obvious here that the Tories do not have a single iota of a clue how to deal with the systematic economic challenges in the valleys. Instead, they retreat to a small number of rural enclaves with a disproportionately large number of retired English people, and say that the real problem is that the evil Welsh Government doesn’t spend enough on them.
You then look at the other parties. Plaid are the left wing version of Labour on steroids, thinking that the problem is that we haven’t created enough bureaucracy, we need more regulations, need to slice every tiny pie to create another slice we can pretend is new activity, all while completely struggling to convince anyone that their real priority is the valleys when their real priority is obviously West Wales.
You have the Lib Dems who take all of the posturing of Plaid, add in the NIMBYism and ruralism of the Tories, and you end up with more of the status quo.
What we are being offered by every party is the inevitable continuation of relative decline. Our town centres getting worse. Our public services getting worse. Our Council Tax bills continuing to rise. Buses getting cut.
The greatest lie in our politics at the moment is that democracy is offering us a real choice. It isn’t. We are just being offered the same packet of crisps in different coloured bags.
Everyone knows Farage is a liar. Everyone knows his policy platform is a crock of shite. Everyone knows his candidates will be a disaster.
Farage is a blunt instrument, directed towards a Westminster and Cardiff bay establishment. People dont particularly care which party or politicians get hit.
(I’m not voting Reform. I just get why people in shit valleys towns would)
If Reform would win, and immigration is Reforms largest political device, doesn’t that prove that there is an issue with immigration, or at least that people have an issue with it?
Genuine question.
Fitting that this guy always looks absolutely amazed at the prospect of his winning anything, since it flummoxes me as well
Nah huge numbers will say they’ll vote reform but chicken out in the moment and vote Tory as the devil they know. Vote split, Labour reign.
Yup.
Due to boomers and gen x sadly with education at GCSE or lower.
[How would Britain vote, a year since the 2024 election | YouGov](https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/52431-how-would-britain-vote-a-year-since-the-2024-election)
This is down to media propaganda mostly and poor Labour government policies thus far.
The media turned on Labour within a _month_ of being elected and public opinion has dropped since that point.
It’s not a coincidence.
We doing this every week?
We’re going to have four years of this crap. No better time than now to read Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent.
I hate this fucking planet so much. I want to get off