>Those who knew Monzo, who was born in Brazil, had not seen the “easygoing boy” since he left for the UK more than a decade ago. They were unable to comprehend Monzo’s appalling crimes carried out at daybreak 6,000 miles away.
Some added context the BBC decided was not worthy of reporting.
38 years, at £51,200 a year. That’s as near as matters £2m he’ll cost us.
This doesn’t factor in the dead child, the hurt its caused family and friends, the increase to our murder rate, the injured police officer, the cost of his defence, the cost of his prosecution, the cost of the investigation, etc etc.
ash_ninetyone on
He’ll be in his 70s by the time he’s eligible for parole.
Simple_Joys on
He’ll never be released. He’ll be in his mid-70s before he’s even eligible for parole, and life expectancy among prisoners is lower than the wider population.
andreirublov1 on
The killing aside, it’s good to have a moment when we can really be proud of the police – a moment that stands for all the times their efforts go unsung and unappreciated.
ScottRans0m on
Absolutely appalling sentence – should have been given a whole life order. Serious what the fuck is wrong with these judges, he’s literally shown him leniency because of ‘Mental Health’ – the guy went on ayahuasca trips and done psychedelic drugs ffs – how on earth can than constitute as a mental health issue? The justice system in this country is a fucking disgrace.
hgjayhvkk on
I don’t get fhe mental aspect. How is he able to purchase a sword and swing about on camera like its a toy?
GenerallyDull on
The police need to be routinely armed.
It could be phased in over time. Make entry requirements stricter, with only those joining after a certain date mandated to carry a firearm.
Anyone who joined before that date can opt in if they wish, and be subject to further testing.
ClockOwn6363 on
Someone punched a young man to death at the train station and only got 6 years.
DimensionTiny8725 on
Don’t quite get the mental health sympathy reduction, he chose to be a cannabis addict at his own will rather than this being a medical episode he had no control over.
gintokireddit on
When reading/watching about the crime spree, I thought it was really awful (and the police officers present were outstanding).
It’s also awful to imagine someone being in prison for the rest of their life, especially if they’re somewhat clueless about what happened and really didn’t want to go towards acting that way (my guess is his blank expression throughout the trial is him dissociating).
No winners. Best way to win is prevention. Which requires a mindset of learning from the past and also thinking about what can go wrong from our actions (of individuals in society and institutions), but that mindset is often lacking (see whistleblowers being punished, or how people just often have an attitude of “not my job, so i won’t bother” or dogmatically follow procedures even if they go against purported objectives).
Strict-Comparison583 on
Who’s against the death penalty for this guy? It’s galling that we as a society, not only have to deal with the consequence of his actions, we also have to pay potentially millions of pounds to look after him for the next 38 years. Then we’ll probably put him in nice accommodation til he dies, with endless social care. On top of that he’s a Brazilian/Spanish national, any chance we can transfer him to Brazil and let them deal with him?!
Smooth_News_7027 on
Hopefully the powers that be will have recommended the coppers for a medal, heroic stuff.
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Good, solid sentence. Mans a posterchild for the WooWoo to Conspiracy nutter pipeline.
Somehow I doubt that the “concerned citizens” will be burning down libraries and looting Greggs over this.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/how-hainault-swordsman-marcus-monzo-slipped-into-drugs-and-delusion-j60j0cvvl
>Those who knew Monzo, who was born in Brazil, had not seen the “easygoing boy” since he left for the UK more than a decade ago. They were unable to comprehend Monzo’s appalling crimes carried out at daybreak 6,000 miles away.
Some added context the BBC decided was not worthy of reporting.
38 years, at £51,200 a year. That’s as near as matters £2m he’ll cost us.
This doesn’t factor in the dead child, the hurt its caused family and friends, the increase to our murder rate, the injured police officer, the cost of his defence, the cost of his prosecution, the cost of the investigation, etc etc.
He’ll be in his 70s by the time he’s eligible for parole.
He’ll never be released. He’ll be in his mid-70s before he’s even eligible for parole, and life expectancy among prisoners is lower than the wider population.
The killing aside, it’s good to have a moment when we can really be proud of the police – a moment that stands for all the times their efforts go unsung and unappreciated.
Absolutely appalling sentence – should have been given a whole life order. Serious what the fuck is wrong with these judges, he’s literally shown him leniency because of ‘Mental Health’ – the guy went on ayahuasca trips and done psychedelic drugs ffs – how on earth can than constitute as a mental health issue? The justice system in this country is a fucking disgrace.
I don’t get fhe mental aspect. How is he able to purchase a sword and swing about on camera like its a toy?
The police need to be routinely armed.
It could be phased in over time. Make entry requirements stricter, with only those joining after a certain date mandated to carry a firearm.
Anyone who joined before that date can opt in if they wish, and be subject to further testing.
Someone punched a young man to death at the train station and only got 6 years.
Don’t quite get the mental health sympathy reduction, he chose to be a cannabis addict at his own will rather than this being a medical episode he had no control over.
When reading/watching about the crime spree, I thought it was really awful (and the police officers present were outstanding).
It’s also awful to imagine someone being in prison for the rest of their life, especially if they’re somewhat clueless about what happened and really didn’t want to go towards acting that way (my guess is his blank expression throughout the trial is him dissociating).
No winners. Best way to win is prevention. Which requires a mindset of learning from the past and also thinking about what can go wrong from our actions (of individuals in society and institutions), but that mindset is often lacking (see whistleblowers being punished, or how people just often have an attitude of “not my job, so i won’t bother” or dogmatically follow procedures even if they go against purported objectives).
Who’s against the death penalty for this guy? It’s galling that we as a society, not only have to deal with the consequence of his actions, we also have to pay potentially millions of pounds to look after him for the next 38 years. Then we’ll probably put him in nice accommodation til he dies, with endless social care. On top of that he’s a Brazilian/Spanish national, any chance we can transfer him to Brazil and let them deal with him?!
Hopefully the powers that be will have recommended the coppers for a medal, heroic stuff.