I’m sympathetic to him, and the Met didn’t exactly handle it well but, fundamentally:
> “It’s still not clear to me why it’s illegal,” Isra adds. “When I woke I was given a paper saying I didn’t have insurance or registration, but it was a power attachment. It wasn’t a vehicle.
It is. He literally turned it into a car – if he’d chucked a 2 litre engine on it nobody would be surprised, and electric motors don’t have some special “thats okay” category.
There’s plenty of info and guidance out there on what is acceptable and what’s not
> Charities want the government to issue guidance to police for officers to use their discretion and not confiscate electric attachments.
So ask the police not enforce a fairly black and white law……because?
RAME0000000000000000 on
They commandeered his wheelchair while pursuing a suspect, it was downhill so it’s understandable.
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henry_blackie on
>Israel Vidal couldn’t believe it when the Met confiscated his wheelchair. His crime? Using an electric attachment on his wheelchair to help tow him around.
Very shitty journalism, his crime was driving around without insurance.
Whether or not they agree with the law, there’s no reason for Isra and the BBC to pretend that the motor is the issue.
PetersMapProject on
I don’t understand why a wheelchair with an electric attachment is being treated as a car, when we have electric wheelchairs and mobility scooters that are completely and unproblematically legal.
Ivorsune on
He illegally modded his MOBILITY SCOOTER, NOT A WHEELCHAIR. Typical whining for learning the consequences of breaking the law.
But, to be fair, they could have treated this case with more care, seeing as he is indeed disabled and needs a wheelchair, essentially crippling him again.
They could have confiscated the attachments and sent a ticket or order through the mail.
CameramanNick on
I understand the issue here is the definition of “wheelchair.”
Either way, unless this guy was moving around in a really *wildly* unsafe manner, this strikes me as the police going for a nice, safe, low-effort detection, as opposed to making a much more appropriate allocation of what they constantly claim are scarce resources.
ServoSkull20 on
Super clickybait articel that once you actually read you discover the guy is a bit of a prick. Obey the bloody law. It’s not hard.
snakeoildriller on
>classed as motor vehicles and are illegal without insurance and registration
Yet jobs can ride on roads and pavements anti-socially without insurance or giving a fuck putting people at risk, and without fear of being punished? Yet again the “authorities” prove that they’re devoid of common sense and *targeting the wrong client group*.
BugPsychological4836 on
“But at the moment, they are classed as motor vehicles and are illegal without insurance and registration”
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I’m sympathetic to him, and the Met didn’t exactly handle it well but, fundamentally:
> “It’s still not clear to me why it’s illegal,” Isra adds. “When I woke I was given a paper saying I didn’t have insurance or registration, but it was a power attachment. It wasn’t a vehicle.
It is. He literally turned it into a car – if he’d chucked a 2 litre engine on it nobody would be surprised, and electric motors don’t have some special “thats okay” category.
There’s plenty of info and guidance out there on what is acceptable and what’s not
> Charities want the government to issue guidance to police for officers to use their discretion and not confiscate electric attachments.
So ask the police not enforce a fairly black and white law……because?
They commandeered his wheelchair while pursuing a suspect, it was downhill so it’s understandable.
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>Israel Vidal couldn’t believe it when the Met confiscated his wheelchair. His crime? Using an electric attachment on his wheelchair to help tow him around.
Very shitty journalism, his crime was driving around without insurance.
Whether or not they agree with the law, there’s no reason for Isra and the BBC to pretend that the motor is the issue.
I don’t understand why a wheelchair with an electric attachment is being treated as a car, when we have electric wheelchairs and mobility scooters that are completely and unproblematically legal.
He illegally modded his MOBILITY SCOOTER, NOT A WHEELCHAIR. Typical whining for learning the consequences of breaking the law.
But, to be fair, they could have treated this case with more care, seeing as he is indeed disabled and needs a wheelchair, essentially crippling him again.
They could have confiscated the attachments and sent a ticket or order through the mail.
I understand the issue here is the definition of “wheelchair.”
Either way, unless this guy was moving around in a really *wildly* unsafe manner, this strikes me as the police going for a nice, safe, low-effort detection, as opposed to making a much more appropriate allocation of what they constantly claim are scarce resources.
Super clickybait articel that once you actually read you discover the guy is a bit of a prick. Obey the bloody law. It’s not hard.
>classed as motor vehicles and are illegal without insurance and registration
Yet jobs can ride on roads and pavements anti-socially without insurance or giving a fuck putting people at risk, and without fear of being punished? Yet again the “authorities” prove that they’re devoid of common sense and *targeting the wrong client group*.
“But at the moment, they are classed as motor vehicles and are illegal without insurance and registration”
Guess thats why the police took it