I think Starmer might be on a sticky wicket if Rayner decides to push her chips into the middle.
Current_Case7806 on
The biggest travesty of this new parliament is that we voted for major change after 14 years of tory cuts, austerity and brexit – and this party seem obsessed with being more tory and sticking to stringent rules that hinder any progress.
NOTHING will happen with this stance. Either we cut benefits or we cut pensions or we cut services if we want to stick to borrowing rules that the right wing press have pressured her into. there is no way of stimulating growth or improving the country sticking to a tory plan that has stifled the country throughout history.
I would have more respect if she said “the public have spoken, you can have another say on the finances at the next election” and actually made real change. As it is, it looks more and more like an angry vote will get a reform government next time…and then we will see the death of the NHS and the end of the UK.
Only_Tip9560 on
Her days are numbered. Pretty clear that this fiasco is being pinned on her, rightly or wrongly
Intrepid_Solution194 on
I don’t think it’s good form to celebrate someone being stressed in their job to the point of tears.
Fact is she’s having to make difficult choices the likes of which very few people on here can empathise with.
Crazy-Condition-8446 on
Oh well, . She lied that she was an economist, and naturally couldn’t cut the mustard. Starmer will throw her under the bus to save his own skin.
Normal-Ear-5757 on
When they realize they can’t take any more from the poor, only then do they cry those sweet neoliberal tears
thxrrr on
Maybe if they stopped pushing personal agenda and did what the public asks for she’d me alright
SurlyPoe on
For some reason Labour refuse to sort out the right wing media and are letting them still dictate policy even when they have a massive majority.
Austerity was always just a con so the Tories could cut or steal everything, it only slows the economy and reduces the TAX take.
It is just not going to work. It time to face down the markets and tell them to f off.
Heavens_Vibe on
So that’s now 150,001 victims of Rachel Reeves’ catastrophic tenure?
As far as sympathy goes, she ranks at 150,001 for me in that list.
RoyalJacko on
A spokesman for the chancellor reportedly stated, “It’s a personal matter, which – as you would expect – we are not going to get into. The chancellor will be working out of Downing Street this afternoon.”
R3DSmurf on
I love the fact that left wing voters slag off Labour just as much as they slag off the Tories. Indicates that some people will just moan about any government. How about some of you try supporting the government you voted for?
Psy_Kikk on
Two party system is facking bollocks. 14 years of useless toey government, where the centrists promise, and the right screw it over deliberately .. hs2 or ‘levelling up’, brexit…
Now we get more of the same, we know its either more taxes or cut disability. Centrist promise and the left screw it over deliberately.
We need proportional representation, and an end to first past the post. We have 4 political parties pretending to be 2, and it makes us stagnant.
baddymcbadface on
I hope all the people cheering this on don’t complain about the kind of people we end up with in politics. God forbid someone isn’t made of stone.
salamanderwolf on
It’s bad that she feels so under pressure that she’s breaking, but a large part of me really finds it hard to care.
Maybe if she hadn’t gone after the easy choice of targeting welfare. Maybe if she hadn’t gone after the most vulnerable in society, and tried something else. Maybe, if she had funded mental health care better, then I would find it easier to feel sorry for her.
But I don’t.
nautilusatwork on
I’d guess it’s thanks to the backstabbing MPs who are rebelling to save their own seat rather than allow the difficult but necessary decisions to be made.
Dankamonius on
The issue was that they tried to sell it as reforming the welfare system but it was blatantly obvious it was only about saving X amount of money. They found the sweet spot where you can cut off the maximum amount of people without scrapping the whole thing but ofc it then blew up in their face.
It’s been reported by political observers that it was a personal matter, some people will just continue their own speculations though I imagine
Commandopsn on
Over weight people are costing 126 billion a year. She’s probably working out some way to tax them for it. instead of bringing the price of health food down.
Although it’s always much More than just eat healthy.
Junior-Service1044 on
well it apears that when you attack the sick and disabled people for haveing serious illness treating them like scum it makes you feel bad? shame. good!
banco666 on
She’s crying because she’s thinking about what the bond market will do to government borrowing rates if she doesn’t impose ever more taxes on the steadily declining percentage of people who actually have jobs.
Fluffy-Sand-9470 on
suggested alternate headline
**disabled entitled to die homeless and hungry in the streets with no support**
for the disabled people a lot of whom have only worsened because of two decades of having nhs and local services and support completed eviscerated
by consecutive government labour > conservative > labour again now cuts to everything from youth centres to autism support teams dementia care and so much more and that is just my locale
hope we are all prepared to see homeless disabled people dying on our city, town and village streets
(which IS the ultimate fate of someone who cant work having their support eroded over 20 years and then having the last of it ripped away gleefully while keir and reeves are cosy warm or right now i expect comfortably ac cooled in their fourth homes)
who care if reeves is suddenly growing a miniscule conscience actually i wouldn’t be surprised if they were tears of happiness or may she was sad she cant do all the euthanasia’s herself
hgjayhvkk on
Labour and Imploding on themselves. Name a better pair. Honestly, feel for her and its likely she won’t be chancellor for long.
ThatGuyMaulicious on
She is fucked and Starmer is gonna struggle to survive given he’s stood so close to her.
DerkhaDerkha on
>A spokeswoman for the prime minister said: “The chancellor is going nowhere. She has the prime minister’s full backing.”
That’s always code for “They won’t have a job by the end of the week”.
ManfromAtlantis on
I think it actually looks like she could just be suffering from really bad hayfeaver.
concretepigeon on
Sacked in the morning! You’re getting sacked in the morning! Sacked in the moooooorning!
Time-Fix-5135 on
I came across this notion a while ago and it’s very true. Benefits are not for the poor. They are benefits for the rich. Here’s some examples why:
1. Corporations (who already pay little to no tax) pay shit wages which causes people to need state benefits as top ups. So this means the corporations make even more profits. Solution? Make them pay wages which don’t need state benefits top ups.
2. Landlords keep upping rents which means housing benefits and benefits need to go up to match the rent increases. So the state benefits are going directly into landlords pockets to increase their quality of life and their profits.
3. Electric and gas companies who are making record profits each year are still increasing prices which means people have less money and can’t afford to live – the state have to pay up to help. That money is funding the companies record profits.
4. Grocery store prices are rising although they are also seeing record profits. Same result applies as No3.
More than a decade of austerity has left us to a very sick, very depressed nation which does what? Cha ching – it costs the taxpayer.
Don’t tell me a wealth tax on these benefit scrounging billionaire corporations won’t work. But MORE austerity on the most vulnerable will. Their propaganda machine has well and truly brainwashed you.
Most state benefits money goes directly to the most rich. But they lie you to think the most vulnerable have this money.
Solution to not tax the rich but bring benefit costs down?
1. Make corporations pay decent living standard wages and people won’t need top ups (half the people on UC also are in work) if you’re working you should not need benefit top ups.
2. Rent caps = lower housing benefit payments needed
3. Nationalise energy and gas and the payments will drop drastically for the everyday person which reduces the cost of living.
3. Put a cap on grocery companies profits and reduce the cost of living.
WickerSnicker7 on
The Iron Chancellor.
Wait until there’s a real crisis, the Cabinet will be on sick leave for their mental health.
Mr_XcX on
If she has personal situation then it bad conduct having her on front bench. Starmer forcing her to be there to defend the fiasco.
I think her position untenable on performance level as she made so many mistakes.
Kemi had such ammunition. Farage and Reform gleeful.
phangtom on
Don’t worry guys. Surely, the wealth from the rich will trickle down to the poor any minute now.
DigbyGibbers on
The description of her as a human shield for his incompetence is accurate. He’s strung her out to dry like the coward he is.
sweetvioletapril on
Tears of self pity. Shed for herself. Ridiculous, and very unprofessional.
Stage_Party on
So many people commenting on labours welfare reform but haven’t actually read or understood what it actually is 😂
Go vote reform like the good little racists you are and stop trying to create excuses to be racist. Own it and take your punches like you deserve.
zombi33mj on
I’m seeing a few comments of people saying its free money and should get off their ssses and work, first of all, its really difficult getting on pip, most have to go to tribunal to get it, and most people on pip work, so it’s a ridiculous take…and those that don’t work do want to work but most jobs won’t take someone on who has health issues…guess they just gotta go without money then 🙄
uwatfordm8 on
Can’t wait for Reform to win because Rachel Reeves tried to stop the massive increase in people on disability, only for Reform to completely gut it and undo any of the other good moves Labour are making….
Some people really think they can just have everything they want and the economy will be fine
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Starmer said: “We’re only getting started, the chancellor **has led** on all these issues and we’re grateful to her for it.”
Interesting choice of tense, shouldn’t it be “is leading on”?
You may not agree with her politics but she is still human.
Reeves will be ok. It’s not like she’s disabled and facing financial ruin
Pardon me for a moment; my tiny violin requires tuning for this occasion
Looks like she hasn’t slept well. Hopefully up all night tarting up her CV
Didn’t watch any of it, but maybe she has only just realised that she and Starmer have the same voice. I mean, it’s weird.
The buck stops with her ultimately, she’s done a bad job and the rebellion this early into a parliamentary term demonstrates this.
Streeting probably next up to the plate, if you believe the [boys club](https://www.politico.eu/article/keir-starmer-boys-club-accusation-peter-mandelson-women/) stuff.
I think Starmer might be on a sticky wicket if Rayner decides to push her chips into the middle.
The biggest travesty of this new parliament is that we voted for major change after 14 years of tory cuts, austerity and brexit – and this party seem obsessed with being more tory and sticking to stringent rules that hinder any progress.
NOTHING will happen with this stance. Either we cut benefits or we cut pensions or we cut services if we want to stick to borrowing rules that the right wing press have pressured her into. there is no way of stimulating growth or improving the country sticking to a tory plan that has stifled the country throughout history.
I would have more respect if she said “the public have spoken, you can have another say on the finances at the next election” and actually made real change. As it is, it looks more and more like an angry vote will get a reform government next time…and then we will see the death of the NHS and the end of the UK.
Her days are numbered. Pretty clear that this fiasco is being pinned on her, rightly or wrongly
I don’t think it’s good form to celebrate someone being stressed in their job to the point of tears.
Fact is she’s having to make difficult choices the likes of which very few people on here can empathise with.
Oh well, . She lied that she was an economist, and naturally couldn’t cut the mustard. Starmer will throw her under the bus to save his own skin.
When they realize they can’t take any more from the poor, only then do they cry those sweet neoliberal tears
Maybe if they stopped pushing personal agenda and did what the public asks for she’d me alright
For some reason Labour refuse to sort out the right wing media and are letting them still dictate policy even when they have a massive majority.
Austerity was always just a con so the Tories could cut or steal everything, it only slows the economy and reduces the TAX take.
It is just not going to work. It time to face down the markets and tell them to f off.
So that’s now 150,001 victims of Rachel Reeves’ catastrophic tenure?
As far as sympathy goes, she ranks at 150,001 for me in that list.
A spokesman for the chancellor reportedly stated, “It’s a personal matter, which – as you would expect – we are not going to get into. The chancellor will be working out of Downing Street this afternoon.”
I love the fact that left wing voters slag off Labour just as much as they slag off the Tories. Indicates that some people will just moan about any government. How about some of you try supporting the government you voted for?
Two party system is facking bollocks. 14 years of useless toey government, where the centrists promise, and the right screw it over deliberately .. hs2 or ‘levelling up’, brexit…
Now we get more of the same, we know its either more taxes or cut disability. Centrist promise and the left screw it over deliberately.
We need proportional representation, and an end to first past the post. We have 4 political parties pretending to be 2, and it makes us stagnant.
I hope all the people cheering this on don’t complain about the kind of people we end up with in politics. God forbid someone isn’t made of stone.
It’s bad that she feels so under pressure that she’s breaking, but a large part of me really finds it hard to care.
Maybe if she hadn’t gone after the easy choice of targeting welfare. Maybe if she hadn’t gone after the most vulnerable in society, and tried something else. Maybe, if she had funded mental health care better, then I would find it easier to feel sorry for her.
But I don’t.
I’d guess it’s thanks to the backstabbing MPs who are rebelling to save their own seat rather than allow the difficult but necessary decisions to be made.
The issue was that they tried to sell it as reforming the welfare system but it was blatantly obvious it was only about saving X amount of money. They found the sweet spot where you can cut off the maximum amount of people without scrapping the whole thing but ofc it then blew up in their face.
Ohhhh it’s getting messy in the house
[“She had an altercation with Speaker Lindsay [Hoyle] just before PMQs. They had a row. I think he ended up apologising to her”](https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1940385157288181990)
It’s been reported by political observers that it was a personal matter, some people will just continue their own speculations though I imagine
Over weight people are costing 126 billion a year. She’s probably working out some way to tax them for it. instead of bringing the price of health food down.
Although it’s always much More than just eat healthy.
well it apears that when you attack the sick and disabled people for haveing serious illness treating them like scum it makes you feel bad? shame. good!
She’s crying because she’s thinking about what the bond market will do to government borrowing rates if she doesn’t impose ever more taxes on the steadily declining percentage of people who actually have jobs.
suggested alternate headline
**disabled entitled to die homeless and hungry in the streets with no support**
for the disabled people a lot of whom have only worsened because of two decades of having nhs and local services and support completed eviscerated
by consecutive government labour > conservative > labour again now cuts to everything from youth centres to autism support teams dementia care and so much more and that is just my locale
hope we are all prepared to see homeless disabled people dying on our city, town and village streets
(which IS the ultimate fate of someone who cant work having their support eroded over 20 years and then having the last of it ripped away gleefully while keir and reeves are cosy warm or right now i expect comfortably ac cooled in their fourth homes)
who care if reeves is suddenly growing a miniscule conscience actually i wouldn’t be surprised if they were tears of happiness or may she was sad she cant do all the euthanasia’s herself
Labour and Imploding on themselves. Name a better pair. Honestly, feel for her and its likely she won’t be chancellor for long.
She is fucked and Starmer is gonna struggle to survive given he’s stood so close to her.
>A spokeswoman for the prime minister said: “The chancellor is going nowhere. She has the prime minister’s full backing.”
That’s always code for “They won’t have a job by the end of the week”.
I think it actually looks like she could just be suffering from really bad hayfeaver.
Sacked in the morning! You’re getting sacked in the morning! Sacked in the moooooorning!
I came across this notion a while ago and it’s very true. Benefits are not for the poor. They are benefits for the rich. Here’s some examples why:
1. Corporations (who already pay little to no tax) pay shit wages which causes people to need state benefits as top ups. So this means the corporations make even more profits. Solution? Make them pay wages which don’t need state benefits top ups.
2. Landlords keep upping rents which means housing benefits and benefits need to go up to match the rent increases. So the state benefits are going directly into landlords pockets to increase their quality of life and their profits.
3. Electric and gas companies who are making record profits each year are still increasing prices which means people have less money and can’t afford to live – the state have to pay up to help. That money is funding the companies record profits.
4. Grocery store prices are rising although they are also seeing record profits. Same result applies as No3.
More than a decade of austerity has left us to a very sick, very depressed nation which does what? Cha ching – it costs the taxpayer.
Don’t tell me a wealth tax on these benefit scrounging billionaire corporations won’t work. But MORE austerity on the most vulnerable will. Their propaganda machine has well and truly brainwashed you.
Most state benefits money goes directly to the most rich. But they lie you to think the most vulnerable have this money.
Solution to not tax the rich but bring benefit costs down?
1. Make corporations pay decent living standard wages and people won’t need top ups (half the people on UC also are in work) if you’re working you should not need benefit top ups.
2. Rent caps = lower housing benefit payments needed
3. Nationalise energy and gas and the payments will drop drastically for the everyday person which reduces the cost of living.
3. Put a cap on grocery companies profits and reduce the cost of living.
The Iron Chancellor.
Wait until there’s a real crisis, the Cabinet will be on sick leave for their mental health.
If she has personal situation then it bad conduct having her on front bench. Starmer forcing her to be there to defend the fiasco.
I think her position untenable on performance level as she made so many mistakes.
Kemi had such ammunition. Farage and Reform gleeful.
Don’t worry guys. Surely, the wealth from the rich will trickle down to the poor any minute now.
The description of her as a human shield for his incompetence is accurate. He’s strung her out to dry like the coward he is.
Tears of self pity. Shed for herself. Ridiculous, and very unprofessional.
So many people commenting on labours welfare reform but haven’t actually read or understood what it actually is 😂
Go vote reform like the good little racists you are and stop trying to create excuses to be racist. Own it and take your punches like you deserve.
I’m seeing a few comments of people saying its free money and should get off their ssses and work, first of all, its really difficult getting on pip, most have to go to tribunal to get it, and most people on pip work, so it’s a ridiculous take…and those that don’t work do want to work but most jobs won’t take someone on who has health issues…guess they just gotta go without money then 🙄
Can’t wait for Reform to win because Rachel Reeves tried to stop the massive increase in people on disability, only for Reform to completely gut it and undo any of the other good moves Labour are making….
Some people really think they can just have everything they want and the economy will be fine
Fuck her – [https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-to-deliver-on-5-nato-pledge-as-government-drives-greater-security-for-working-people](https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-to-deliver-on-5-nato-pledge-as-government-drives-greater-security-for-working-people)
I have no sympathy for her to be honest. Can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
The state of these comments demonstrates how polarised we are as a nation.
How can everyone continue to think the welfare bill is sustainable? Just because you’re disabled doesn’t mean you cannot work.
I know this, because I am legally disabled but capable.