Ok no more evidence required here, he can metabolise oxygen!
Aspect-Unusual on
These assesements are utter bullcrap, sometimes its instant and no questions asked and other times you gotta fight tooth and nail for it.
My son failed his DLA application two times now, he cant be left on his own because hes a danger to his own life as well to others when not being kept in check yet he scored zero.
His cousin with ADHD who does everything by himself, has no safeguarding issues got high rate care and mobility.
Its insanity
TheLegendOfMart on
On re-assessment Assessor lied and gave my dad 0 points and mandatory reconsideration with a nasty sarcastic letter from his GP they gave him almost full points for both.
This is after the original assessment that we took them to the tribunal for that the judge awarded him PIP without even having to talk to my dad just looking at his medical records.
pajamakitten on
These assessments should be done by a doctor and we have plenty of medical students/GPs looking for work. Maybe I am an idiot but could we not hire those people to perform the assessments? I know it means they will be done properly and people will be given what the y are owed, however it will stop people being treated like scum for being disabled.
KeyLog256 on
Devil’s advocate on this, and I have family member’s on PIP due to disability so I’m not ignorant to this.
Some/all of these points are also questions/debating points (I know we’re on Reddit, but sometimes people just take these things as statements a person will not be moved on, I am happy to have my view changed)
1. The issues this man experienced date back to before Labour were in power, so it’s quite a stretch to relate this to Labour.
2. I thought the proposed bill had been scrapped anyway, so what is the issue here?
3. It doesn’t help his case that he’s shown in two recent photos holding a small baby, and walking his daughter down the aisle. While I’m *certainly* not suggesting he isn’t disabled at all, two of the issues were relating to them disputing his ability to walk and/or hold items. Given he’s shown a) walking, and b) holding a baby of all things, this seems to fly in the face of the suggestion he can’t walk or hold things.
4. His PIP was re-instated after the 2019 error.
5. While I fully sympathise with people suffering from bipolar as close friend is going through this, “I didn’t fill in the form on time” for the 2013 benefits cut-off isn’t an excuse. If you don’t fill the form in, how do they know?
6. His daughter is his full time carer, so why didn’t she take care of this if he’s unable to do it himself?
7. She’s complaining about Carers Allowance being cut off, saying she looks after him “24/7” but then says she was “working too many hours” – which is it? It cannot physically be both.
I fully sympathise with her situation, it must be extremely difficult and unpleasant, but it seems like a bit of a non-story from her perspective as her father’s benefits *were* restored after a short period, and these issues took place before the current government were even involved.
The real elephant in the room here with benefits is not people like her and her father. Let’s be totally frank, there are people claiming benefits who could likely work, not many granted, but it’s still an issue, and this is what the government were trying (and miserably failing) to resolve.
I think there needs to be a little less punch-pulling and a lot more brutal honesty from the government on this issue.
I also still contest that we sack every single unqualified “assessor” and simply let the person’s GP or specialist sign them off, which they have to do *anyway* for the original claim. I’ve been saying this for years. Once had someone very angrily contest this idea on Reddit, and they got so worked up they accidentally let slip they were exaggerating their disability in order to claim…
AshRwanda on
How are people getting this for ADHD etc if it’s so strict?
jolovesmustard on
My husbands palliative care nurse applied on his behalf as he couldn’t even sit up, never mind hold a pen. He received a letter 3 days after his death telling him he had to apply himself. Like seriously? The DWP have always been brutal and now Starmer and Reeves have now made it even harder. This is horseshit!
542Archiya124 on
Because UK is poor.
No money for people in need.
No money for NHS
No money for teachers, carers, policeman
No money to buy back national services
Not enough money to keep up with the newest military hardwares
No money to fix roads
No money to invest new tech and business
No money to modernise education system
Of course they’d make any excuse to take away benefit from anyone.
UK is poor. You rely on government to keep you alive, you will dearly regret this strategy.
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He blinked didn’t he?
Ok no more evidence required here, he can metabolise oxygen!
These assesements are utter bullcrap, sometimes its instant and no questions asked and other times you gotta fight tooth and nail for it.
My son failed his DLA application two times now, he cant be left on his own because hes a danger to his own life as well to others when not being kept in check yet he scored zero.
His cousin with ADHD who does everything by himself, has no safeguarding issues got high rate care and mobility.
Its insanity
On re-assessment Assessor lied and gave my dad 0 points and mandatory reconsideration with a nasty sarcastic letter from his GP they gave him almost full points for both.
This is after the original assessment that we took them to the tribunal for that the judge awarded him PIP without even having to talk to my dad just looking at his medical records.
These assessments should be done by a doctor and we have plenty of medical students/GPs looking for work. Maybe I am an idiot but could we not hire those people to perform the assessments? I know it means they will be done properly and people will be given what the y are owed, however it will stop people being treated like scum for being disabled.
Devil’s advocate on this, and I have family member’s on PIP due to disability so I’m not ignorant to this.
Some/all of these points are also questions/debating points (I know we’re on Reddit, but sometimes people just take these things as statements a person will not be moved on, I am happy to have my view changed)
1. The issues this man experienced date back to before Labour were in power, so it’s quite a stretch to relate this to Labour.
2. I thought the proposed bill had been scrapped anyway, so what is the issue here?
3. It doesn’t help his case that he’s shown in two recent photos holding a small baby, and walking his daughter down the aisle. While I’m *certainly* not suggesting he isn’t disabled at all, two of the issues were relating to them disputing his ability to walk and/or hold items. Given he’s shown a) walking, and b) holding a baby of all things, this seems to fly in the face of the suggestion he can’t walk or hold things.
4. His PIP was re-instated after the 2019 error.
5. While I fully sympathise with people suffering from bipolar as close friend is going through this, “I didn’t fill in the form on time” for the 2013 benefits cut-off isn’t an excuse. If you don’t fill the form in, how do they know?
6. His daughter is his full time carer, so why didn’t she take care of this if he’s unable to do it himself?
7. She’s complaining about Carers Allowance being cut off, saying she looks after him “24/7” but then says she was “working too many hours” – which is it? It cannot physically be both.
I fully sympathise with her situation, it must be extremely difficult and unpleasant, but it seems like a bit of a non-story from her perspective as her father’s benefits *were* restored after a short period, and these issues took place before the current government were even involved.
The real elephant in the room here with benefits is not people like her and her father. Let’s be totally frank, there are people claiming benefits who could likely work, not many granted, but it’s still an issue, and this is what the government were trying (and miserably failing) to resolve.
I think there needs to be a little less punch-pulling and a lot more brutal honesty from the government on this issue.
I also still contest that we sack every single unqualified “assessor” and simply let the person’s GP or specialist sign them off, which they have to do *anyway* for the original claim. I’ve been saying this for years. Once had someone very angrily contest this idea on Reddit, and they got so worked up they accidentally let slip they were exaggerating their disability in order to claim…
How are people getting this for ADHD etc if it’s so strict?
My husbands palliative care nurse applied on his behalf as he couldn’t even sit up, never mind hold a pen. He received a letter 3 days after his death telling him he had to apply himself. Like seriously? The DWP have always been brutal and now Starmer and Reeves have now made it even harder. This is horseshit!
Because UK is poor.
No money for people in need.
No money for NHS
No money for teachers, carers, policeman
No money to buy back national services
Not enough money to keep up with the newest military hardwares
No money to fix roads
No money to invest new tech and business
No money to modernise education system
Of course they’d make any excuse to take away benefit from anyone.
UK is poor. You rely on government to keep you alive, you will dearly regret this strategy.