Intelligenza francese: la Cina ha usato le ambasciate per minare le vendite del jet da caccia Rafale di punta francese

    https://apnews.com/article/france-china-pakistan-india-defense-rafale-64eec86b6e89718d6a49d8fdedf565f4

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    1. All countries do these kind of things. Don’t forget that under Biden, the US did the same to France. Australia was planning originally to buy a French nuclear submarine not a US one. Now they won’t have any.

      US ‘steals’ huge Australian submarine contract from France
      https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/51895

    2. activedusk on

      Technically so did the US but even more out in the open, does not excuse China ofc, but just a reminder of who your friends really are.

      As an aside I never understood why countries care so much about exporting weapons, if you search the numbers, the industry is really small in terms of total amount of money compared to say even fizzy drinks, you know you’d have an easier time sponsoring a domestic company to become a global seller of drinks and in the long term create more tax revenue and thus income for the state. So why care so much? For two main reasons, one being geopolitics, the countries which buy weapons from your own will more likely get aligned and ally with you on international disputes, the second being economy of scale specifically for the military, the more you produce of something the cheaper the cost per unit so by other countries providing the scale you get to cut spending on providing the same capability, plus more jobs.

    3. RubberDuckRearGunner on

      Yeah, they all do that, no point of crying about it…

    4. Inside-Till3391 on

      Why would China do it? Pakistan had already done the amazing job. Absolutely loser mentality of degrading competitors.

    5. PanickyFool on

      Lockheed Martin: “Dasault CEO and Macron going around shit talking the F35. Saying ‘Active stealth is as good as actual stealth.'”

      Active stealth turns out to be a missile sponge.

      Stop being hypocritical bitches and make something better. This is internal arm sales, not selling ice cream.

    6. Ragnagord on

      No shit?

      Next you’ll tell me the US used embassies to push the JSF project. 

    7. VigorousElk on

      France *really* has a salty streak as soon as anyone or anything might jeopardise their weapons sales. The public meltdown they had when Australia went for AUKUS instead was really something.

      International deals are a cut-throat business, of course other countries are trying to snatch up your business. The French do the same.

    8. commenian on

      In the 1970’s BAC and Dassault formed a joint company Sepecat to manage production and sales of the Jaguar. As Dassault also produced the Jaguars competitor the Mirage F1 with no profit sharing, unlike the Jaguar, Dassault had a healthy motivation to scupper Jaguar sales. Which is what it promptly did. They had access to all Sepecats sales offers to potential customers and used this information to undercut Jaguar sales with offers of Mirage F1’s instead.
      In the 1980’s, when BAE (BAC’s) successor, was invited into a partnership with Dassault for the new Eurofighter, BAE wanted no part of it understandably.

    9. PenguinsAreAllAlone on

      US did this extensively against the Swedish Gripen. Usual stuff

    10. TheoryOfDevolution on

      I just love in an article about Chinese attempts to block Rafale sales that people here make it about it the US.

    11. Coldulva on

      China trying to sell Chinese aircraft is not a groundbreaking development.

    12. malcarada on

      I think few people read the article, the problem is not China criticising rival products the problem is that they used disinformation spreading lies about the Rafale, people defending this as normal business then don´t complaint when others say that Chinese hardware sends information to the Chinese Communist Party headquarters.

      *They say the campaign included viral posts on social media, manipulated imagery showing supposed Rafale debris, AI-generated content and video-game depictions to simulate supposed combat.*

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