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    1. Alarmed_Crazy_6620 on

      Wise words form somebody who never had to negotiate something with >5 nation states

    4. goldstarflag on

      Dfferent empires and unions have ruled Europe throughout most of its history. The concept of the nation state in Europe is new… in some cases younger than the steam engine. I think the challenge now is to achieve a balanced approach where power is transferred in two directions; down to the regions for local competences and up to the European level for defence, security, trade etc.

    5. HistoryJust5266 on

      When linking an article behind paywall, please also copy the text here.

      Also, USE is a necessity that will happen one day. But not soon. Decades at the least.

    6. NCC_1701E on

      Oh we can only wish for now. It certainly won’t be a thing in near future, at best it will be many decades, maybe even as far as hundred years. And even then only if EU won’t fall apart until that happens.

    7. jebwillsaveus on

      If there is anything Europe should not do, it is to model itself after the United States.

    8. Stabile_Feldmaus on

      You may say I’m dreamer but I’m not the only one🇪🇺🇪🇺

    11. mrwhite14X on

      And who is going to be the politburo i mean the government that will run it?

      how do we prevent them from imposing hardship into certain areas once there is no opposition, or i don’t know, taking some weird agricultural decisions that might result in some countries having a famine or a financial crisis?

      We do have precedents for it…

    13. HrabiaVulpes on

      Oh yes… we will soon agree on the common european language, european common law, religion etc.

      Just after we genetically engineer pigs to have fly for those tasty boar wings.

      /s

    14. TheoryOfDevolution on

      It’s only been a few months since /u/EUstrongerthanUS got suspended and we’re back to the Euro-federalist propaganda spam again? And from a 2 day old account to boot.

      Federalisation is not a solution to all of Europe’s problems and in fact may even make some of it worst. We already have right-wing takeovers of many governments in Europe, centralisation of power will just give those nutjobs an avenue to even greater power. We can’t even collaborate effectively on things like the FCAS without national egos getting in the way. Our current loose confederation does mean that sometime things are slow to happen but it also allows for parties in conflict to seek other partners and to lead their own way. If we were a federation, we’d locked into a perpetual marriage where the dysfunction can only magnify. Federalisation also won’t fix the fact that our leaders lack a backbone. See the effectiveness or lack thereof of the Coalition of the Willing. Lots of photo ops with Zhelensky but very few actual solutions. Federalisation won’t fix the growing euro-skepticism, the disenfranchisement of certain European countries (see Austria’s opposition to Romania’s Eurozone admittance), or even the immigration problems.

      We should fix the current problem in our Union before even dreaming of federalisation. None of those problems go away just because we’re a country.

    15. CountFew6186 on

      This will probably be downvoted by anti-Americanism, but I’ve recently been doing an in depth study of the period after the American Revolutionary War when the states were less united than Europe is now, and the decision to have a constitution giving the federal government real power.

      Each state had its own currency. There was no standing army. There was no guarantee of free trade between the states. No mandate for an integrated post office or interstate roads. No copyrights or trademarks issued. No authority for Congress to raise money. No president or executive authority. No national citizenship. No unified monetary policy or fiscal policy. It was 13 states that were effectively 13 counties loosely affiliated.

      It took them a few years, but the people at the time realized this was not an effective system and that continued survival depended on more unity and centralized decision making.

      While no two situations are exactly the same, it could be Europe is having a similar moment.

    17. SnowmanCed on

      Isn’t the US living proof why this would not work at all? Culturally and practically, this would be a mess. More EU cooperation, sure. Federalization? No thanks.

    19. R_12345678910 on

      Absolutely not. I think Europe/the EU should work very closely on most things and foster cultural exchange, but federalisation would be terrible. We need to be good neighbours and close friends without losing our identities.

    20. zabajk on

      States and people don’t just unite for no reason .

      In fact it’s very difficult to get strangers to cooperate and usually this only happens when there is an existential outside threat which is very different culturally than your neighbors cultural distance .

      So larger cultural variation compared to your neighbors and outside threat for all .

      This does not exist for Europe

    21. Mezzoski on

      No. It is not. Not before voters have some say who the head of EU commission is and whose interests are represented.

    23. Talkycoder on

      I think we should start with baby steps by creating a few smaller unions that could eventually form a united Europe.

      Just spitballing, but possible ideas:

      – Norway + Denmark
      – Sweden + Finland
      – Ireland + UK
      – Hungary + Austria
      – Slovakia + Czechia
      – Poland + Germany
      – Belgium + Netherlands
      – Maybe something in the Balkans?

      Edit: For those downvoting, this was very obviously a joke.

    25. Ok-Cartoonist-4458 on

      Image Orban is the head of the United states of Europe. Federalization is not good. Or just Image Trump 2.0 or Putler (Hitler putin) is the head of state.

    26. Enzo_Gorlomi225 on

      The EU is far too culturally diverse for it to become one country…

    27. LordBlacKhiin on

      I very much prefer a coalition of nations than all of us being the same country

    29. Yebi on

      This is on par with “our relationship is strained, let’s have a kid to fix it!”

      How about no?

    31. Natural_Increase_923 on

      No the fuck it isn’t, shared ideals and cooperation is the way forward.

    33. snkiz on

      Gotta be honest as an outsider when the EU came into being I had thought that was the path they were on. I doubt it would look anything like the federation of the U.S That’s just the bias of the Boston Globe showing through.

    34. 002dk on

      The EU is in its current form more effective at regulating than the US.

      What would be the point of more federalism?

    38. Raunhofer on

      I disagree as does everyone, but United Nordic States would absolutely slap.

    47. BioDriver on

      The Boston Globe has always had a reputation of trying to step out of the shadow cast over it by the NYTimes and WSJ by posting takes like this. They always try sounding super enlightened and big brained, but come off as silly

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