>Donald Trump has privately encouraged Ukraine to step up deep strikes on Russian territory, even asking Volodymyr Zelenskyy whether he could strike Moscow if the US provided long-range weapons, according to people briefed on the discussions.
>The conversation, which took place during the July 4 call between the US and Ukrainian leaders, marks a sharp departure from Trump’s previous stance on Russia’s war and his campaign promise to end US involvement in foreign conflicts.
StrangerConscious637 on
Altought it is the orange monkey speaking…. he has a point there. I would love if someone bombs Moscow or Putin himself. It would be the greatest day in my European life.
Ciordad on
That’s the best way to get rid of hornets, give the nest a couple of good whacks./s
Useful_Advice_3175 on
Trump should be the very last person to know if ukraine is able to hit moscow.
djquu on
They already have, but I am not surprised that mango Mussolini hasn’t been paying attention to briefings.
TheoremaEgregium on
If I were Zelensky I would have panicked because I wouldn’t have known which the right answer was. Because hitting Moscow might just as easily have been a red line for Trump.
Anyway, didn’t they already hit Moscow repeatedly?
Melania Trump: Honey, he’s ignored your threats and bombed another city, and you there talking about tariffs…
Trump: Hold my tanning lotion!
Evaporaattori on
Oh I didn’t know he was chill like that 😎
Kanye_Wesht on
It must be like dealing with a bi-polar co-worker without their meds.
rrRunkgullet on
Ideally, you would like to inconvenience the public enough that they rise up against their leader organically. If you can manage this, it precludes a lot of decisions choosing bad resolutions.
ChuckChuckChuck_ on
What is even happening anymore. The reality is stranger than fiction. Poor [Onion.com](http://Onion.com)
trollsmurf on
Succinctly, with the goal to take out Putin and his closest yes-sayers, right?
There’s no point randomly hitting Moscow as a way to create a revolt against Putin. Many Russians are positive to the war, so the outcome might rather increase hatred for “The Immoral West” even more and would likely only feed Putin’s propaganda machine. Putin doesn’t care about Russians dying in Moscow or the battlefield.
Demigans on
Ukraine has hit stuff around Moscow all the time already.
All they need is a missile with enough range. If they can couple it with the right info and targeting data they could perhaps destroy a ton of the radar equipment in one simultaneous drone+missile strike, which would be a massive blow to both the total war effort (now radars from the front will be brought up to Moscow) and open up Moscow and the front to followup strikes, especially in the time Russia needs to relocate and even figure out how to balance it all. Radars are in far smaller supply than the air defenses and already getting stretched for Russia.
CertainMiddle2382 on
Free Ukraine, from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok !
🙂
EfoDom on
Trump better give Ukraine ICBMs as well to distract from the Epstein list.
FReal_EMPES on
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Golda_M on
Looks like a totally different faction now has Trump’s ear on Ukraine.
Here’s my Trumpological take: Its related in some way to the Israel-Iran war. Air Force Command becoming trusted… that would be my first guess at “who.”
The political advisors that came with Hegseth are navy-oriented. Asia. They were the ones who advised on the Houthi campaign. Trump hated that campaign… retreated and called it off without warning.
That camp are also the ones who convinced Trump he could do an easy deal with Putin, if he offered to recognize Russia’s de facto territorial gains. This was some combination of lie and foolishness… as it it turned out.
So my guess is that Trump asked the Iran campaign generals “*Can, or how can Ukraine kick Russia’s ass”* and they started advising.
One thing is for certain. The orange attention span is short. So… act now. In two weeks Donald will be back to trolling Canada, renaming independence day or playing golf.
SgtSenex on
If they hit Moscow with American missiles it will truly show if WW3 will ever happen, this should be a clear clear red line for Putin if he does not act on it, i think the US or allied could easily bomb Russia targets inside Ukraine without massive retaliation. This will show what Russia is actually made off
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>Donald Trump has privately encouraged Ukraine to step up deep strikes on Russian territory, even asking Volodymyr Zelenskyy whether he could strike Moscow if the US provided long-range weapons, according to people briefed on the discussions.
>The conversation, which took place during the July 4 call between the US and Ukrainian leaders, marks a sharp departure from Trump’s previous stance on Russia’s war and his campaign promise to end US involvement in foreign conflicts.
Altought it is the orange monkey speaking…. he has a point there. I would love if someone bombs Moscow or Putin himself. It would be the greatest day in my European life.
That’s the best way to get rid of hornets, give the nest a couple of good whacks./s
Trump should be the very last person to know if ukraine is able to hit moscow.
They already have, but I am not surprised that mango Mussolini hasn’t been paying attention to briefings.
If I were Zelensky I would have panicked because I wouldn’t have known which the right answer was. Because hitting Moscow might just as easily have been a red line for Trump.
Anyway, didn’t they already hit Moscow repeatedly?
I’d rather see Ukraine bomb Putins ‘secret’ palace. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56007943
Melania Trump: Honey, he’s ignored your threats and bombed another city, and you there talking about tariffs…
Trump: Hold my tanning lotion!
Oh I didn’t know he was chill like that 😎
It must be like dealing with a bi-polar co-worker without their meds.
Ideally, you would like to inconvenience the public enough that they rise up against their leader organically. If you can manage this, it precludes a lot of decisions choosing bad resolutions.
What is even happening anymore. The reality is stranger than fiction. Poor [Onion.com](http://Onion.com)
Succinctly, with the goal to take out Putin and his closest yes-sayers, right?
There’s no point randomly hitting Moscow as a way to create a revolt against Putin. Many Russians are positive to the war, so the outcome might rather increase hatred for “The Immoral West” even more and would likely only feed Putin’s propaganda machine. Putin doesn’t care about Russians dying in Moscow or the battlefield.
Ukraine has hit stuff around Moscow all the time already.
All they need is a missile with enough range. If they can couple it with the right info and targeting data they could perhaps destroy a ton of the radar equipment in one simultaneous drone+missile strike, which would be a massive blow to both the total war effort (now radars from the front will be brought up to Moscow) and open up Moscow and the front to followup strikes, especially in the time Russia needs to relocate and even figure out how to balance it all. Radars are in far smaller supply than the air defenses and already getting stretched for Russia.
Free Ukraine, from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok !
🙂
Trump better give Ukraine ICBMs as well to distract from the Epstein list.
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Looks like a totally different faction now has Trump’s ear on Ukraine.
Here’s my Trumpological take: Its related in some way to the Israel-Iran war. Air Force Command becoming trusted… that would be my first guess at “who.”
The political advisors that came with Hegseth are navy-oriented. Asia. They were the ones who advised on the Houthi campaign. Trump hated that campaign… retreated and called it off without warning.
That camp are also the ones who convinced Trump he could do an easy deal with Putin, if he offered to recognize Russia’s de facto territorial gains. This was some combination of lie and foolishness… as it it turned out.
So my guess is that Trump asked the Iran campaign generals “*Can, or how can Ukraine kick Russia’s ass”* and they started advising.
One thing is for certain. The orange attention span is short. So… act now. In two weeks Donald will be back to trolling Canada, renaming independence day or playing golf.
If they hit Moscow with American missiles it will truly show if WW3 will ever happen, this should be a clear clear red line for Putin if he does not act on it, i think the US or allied could easily bomb Russia targets inside Ukraine without massive retaliation. This will show what Russia is actually made off