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    “Un antidoto per gli Andrew Tates of the World”: Scouting Ireland spera di affrontare i problemi moderni con soluzioni tradizionali


    “Un antidoto per gli Andrew Tates of the World”: Scouting Ireland spera di affrontare i problemi moderni con soluzioni tradizionali

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2025/07/18/an-antidote-to-the-andrew-tates-of-the-world-scouting-ireland-hopes-to-tackle-modern-issues-with-traditional-solutions/

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    3. chilloutus on

      Paywalled article but there is merit in the headline at least. 

      Giving kids tools to be independent in early teens has massive impact on self worth and that can only be seen as a good thing.

      More confident young people = less people for the Andrew Tates of the world to exploit with their bulshit

    4. Complex_Hunter35 on

      I don’t think any of these organisations have defined what masculinity is. They should do that then design methods to promote positive masculinity

    5. PoppedCork on

      Some of the traditions they had, I hope they left them in the past. How is safeguarding and governance these days?

    7. Meldanorama on

      I was in beavers cubs and scouts, really enjoyed it for a few years. It wasn’t about masculinity, there were probably more girls in the group than boys.

      I was in the countryside about a mile from the closest other pupil in the school and found the social aspect huge.

    8. PaxUX on

      “modern problems need traditional solutions”, think I got the quote right 🤣

    9. AshleyG1 on

      Ah, you’ve got to love traditions…what fine behavioural examples they provide…

    10. FuzzyCode on

      I wouldn’t let my kids near the scouts. They’ve a history of abuse and scandal.

    11. sureyouknowurself on

      Eh? WTF. Maybe Scouting Ireland should sit this one out.

      What’s next? The solution to Andrew Tate is for more young men to spend time with priests?

    12. John_OSheas_Willy on

      Sounds good. We need more places where young boys and men can achieve something and be praised for it.

    14. TheSameButBetter on

      Scouting Ireland also has a major problem in how it handles children who are on the spectrum. 

      My own experiences of two children with autism and one with ADHD is that the training the leaders receive on such matters is extremely poor. 

      And it’s not just me noticing that, I’m in a lot of autism parent support groups and a lot of people have experienced similar across various scout groups. One common theme seems to be some leaders not wanting to accommodate the needs of children with autism or ADHD and even ejecting them from groups because of that. Another common problem is leaders just not making any accommodations for those children and expecting them to just get on with it or get over it if they have a problem. 

      I actually withdrew my son from his local Scout group because the leader did something which I thought was incredibly inappropriate. It was the big awards meeting before the breakup for summer holidays and all the parents were invited along. So they put on a slideshow showing photographs of various activities and camps they did throughout the year as well as a awarding trophies and badges. My son who has ADHD was given a special award for being the biggest drama maker of the year. Before giving my son the award the group leader cracked a few jokes at his expense and all those jokes were related to symptoms of ADHD. 

      Anyways, at the end of the evening I pulled the leader aside and asked him why the hell would he give my son such an award, and told him I felt that he was trying to humiliate my son for having ADHD. He just didn’t get why I was bothered with what he had done. He kept insisting that it was just a bit of fun and in the spirit of the evening. 

      My son did not return to Scouts after the summer holidays.

    15. RobotIcHead on

      I have worked with a few people who were involved in the scouts and based off that I would advise anyone to steer well clear of sending your kids to the scouts.

    16. Popeyespajamas on

      When I was a kid my cousin used to tell me all about all his scouting trips and camping up in wicklow and it all sounded so cool. My dad refused point blank to ever let me join the scouts. I know why now. This was the 90s though so hopefully things were better by then and even better now.

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