Performative stuff when they have no way of cracking the end to end encryption or buy in from the companies to disable a major selling point of their messaging services.
MelodicMeasurement27 on
This is so wrong.
Nobodythrowout on
If it’s on a phone, it is not private. Everyone needs to know this.
NoFish4176 on
Free speech my fucking hole. What an overstep.
_LightEmittingDiode_ on
Do they have quantum computers handy?
messinginhessen on
“When the group chat got that 24/7 surveillance feel” – *rubs hands*
Illustrious_Read8038 on
Just use a different app.
There are hundreds of messaging apps, or apps with a messaging feature (think Club Penguin) There’s no way they can monitor everything.
YuriLR on
For the messengers even if they have encryption they still have a lot of varying levels of metadata that can be extremely useful to police.
And if they are getting authorization to intercept, that also means the possibility of getting access somewhere else of zero day exploits available to remotely retrieve the data. There is a legal market for that for state actors.
Actually, that time was a few years ago, but it’s not too late.
BlueBucket0 on
You can pass all the legislation you want to, but where’s it’s end to end encrypted those companies quite literally have no way of decrypting the messages as they do not hold keys to them. All you’d end up with is the requests being ignored or the companies withdrawing services from what is a small market anyway. This stuff doesn’t work like the P&T in the 1970s.
And the criminal activities would just move to Telegram etc, which is more likely where they are anyway.
Short of turning Ireland into China or North Korea and having the entire tech sector make a quick exit, this stuff is totally impractical and impossible.
AdmiralRaspberry on
Telegram or Signal it is then.
Cautious-Hovercraft7 on
This is absolute nonsense when the chat is end to end encrypted and cannot be monitored
computercowboys on
Bullshit
bonjurkes on
For the bunch that saying ‘but connections are end to end encrypted’ doesn’t mean a thing when Facebook/Meta holds the keys. They are actively handing out chat logs (including deleted messages) in other countries. So nothing is encrypted really.
So either these companies need to collaborate with Garda and provide a backdoor that they can access, or they have to provide any info Garda requests in short time.
Only workaround is leaving these apps (like Telegram and WhatsApp) and switching to other alternatives.
funglegunk on
Can’t wait for the very first Gardai quantum computer
WilsonWaits2 on
Makes sense. Only reason to be against this is if you’re a criminal
Mouth_Focloir on
What a load of shite. Probably less than 0.1% of the population are serious criminals, so everyone’s private communications should be monitored?
They tried to pass similar legislation in France a few years ago but failed.
Even proposing this is absolutely crazy and dystopian. People need to be very vocal about their anger with this proposition and send plenty of emails to their local politicians.
Even if they passed the legislation and somehow got these companies to comply, there are thankfully workarounds to this bs
21stCenturyVole on
Idiot legislators don’t understand how encryption works.
whatThisOldThrowAway on
They can’t even secure the HSE and they want to break encryption standards, the shower of absolute clowns.
SoilPleasant4368 on
Me: sending efukt and the ync links!
Person snooping on my WhatsApp: wtf is wrong with this person?
DaHodlKing on
There’s not a reality where this actually happens. Yet again another bullshit story and if by some miracle then there would be a mass migration to telegram
ChildhoodAgreeable88 on
That’s a straight up violation of the right of privacy. Will not happen it would be a legal minefield.
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mother fuckers aint getting my memes.
Performative stuff when they have no way of cracking the end to end encryption or buy in from the companies to disable a major selling point of their messaging services.
This is so wrong.
If it’s on a phone, it is not private. Everyone needs to know this.
Free speech my fucking hole. What an overstep.
Do they have quantum computers handy?
“When the group chat got that 24/7 surveillance feel” – *rubs hands*
Just use a different app.
There are hundreds of messaging apps, or apps with a messaging feature (think Club Penguin) There’s no way they can monitor everything.
For the messengers even if they have encryption they still have a lot of varying levels of metadata that can be extremely useful to police.
And if they are getting authorization to intercept, that also means the possibility of getting access somewhere else of zero day exploits available to remotely retrieve the data. There is a legal market for that for state actors.
https://preview.redd.it/n18gmotfy1ef1.jpeg?width=560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02fd6790b60e60779bcd3e7edf35df3c25ff13cc
Me sending memes to the boys in 2026
Time to move to Tekegram or Signal.
Actually, that time was a few years ago, but it’s not too late.
You can pass all the legislation you want to, but where’s it’s end to end encrypted those companies quite literally have no way of decrypting the messages as they do not hold keys to them. All you’d end up with is the requests being ignored or the companies withdrawing services from what is a small market anyway. This stuff doesn’t work like the P&T in the 1970s.
And the criminal activities would just move to Telegram etc, which is more likely where they are anyway.
Short of turning Ireland into China or North Korea and having the entire tech sector make a quick exit, this stuff is totally impractical and impossible.
Telegram or Signal it is then.
This is absolute nonsense when the chat is end to end encrypted and cannot be monitored
Bullshit
For the bunch that saying ‘but connections are end to end encrypted’ doesn’t mean a thing when Facebook/Meta holds the keys. They are actively handing out chat logs (including deleted messages) in other countries. So nothing is encrypted really.
So either these companies need to collaborate with Garda and provide a backdoor that they can access, or they have to provide any info Garda requests in short time.
Only workaround is leaving these apps (like Telegram and WhatsApp) and switching to other alternatives.
Can’t wait for the very first Gardai quantum computer
Makes sense. Only reason to be against this is if you’re a criminal
What a load of shite. Probably less than 0.1% of the population are serious criminals, so everyone’s private communications should be monitored?
They tried to pass similar legislation in France a few years ago but failed.
Even proposing this is absolutely crazy and dystopian. People need to be very vocal about their anger with this proposition and send plenty of emails to their local politicians.
Even if they passed the legislation and somehow got these companies to comply, there are thankfully workarounds to this bs
Idiot legislators don’t understand how encryption works.
They can’t even secure the HSE and they want to break encryption standards, the shower of absolute clowns.
Me: sending efukt and the ync links!
Person snooping on my WhatsApp: wtf is wrong with this person?
There’s not a reality where this actually happens. Yet again another bullshit story and if by some miracle then there would be a mass migration to telegram
That’s a straight up violation of the right of privacy. Will not happen it would be a legal minefield.